Titan has sale on SSQA adapter

   / Titan has sale on SSQA adapter #21  
M5040: Appreciate u posting this big time and the photo on page 1 of this thread. I am starting the adapter plate journey for the 2nd time.
2many rocks: I did what you are talking about by attaching a PT plate directly to a fork attachment a few years ago. I thought I was done with the attachments I needed and now I am realizing that was a rookie mistake on my part. I am now wanting other attachments and can't use the adapter plate that I bought previously for any other new attachments I want since it is welded on the fork attachment.
I am now buying the 3 pt to SSQA adapter mentioned above and another PT1460 plate to make the PT to SSQA adapter plate I should have made the first time around. Seems the SSQA stuff is dropping in price and there are very good deals to be had on used SSQA attachments.
FWIW: I would comment that skid steers in general have much higher lift capacity the PowerTracs. I think that when making the adapter, one can easily lose a great deal of effective lifting capacity with an SSQA adapter that is a) heavy and/or b) deep. The latter pushes the load farther out and gets one into PT pucker territory sooner.

All the best,

Peter
 
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I'm not an engineer. One thing I wonder about is whether the PT draft control is integrated into not just the weight of their front mounted brush cutter, but also the placement of caster wheels on the front? Many of the skid steer brush cutters are heavier than the PT versions, and have no front caster wheels or any wheels at all placing all of the load onto the PT loader arms. Pushing the load of a skid steer cutter further away from the PT would seem to also affect the overall stability of the entire machine.

edit: And on the PT1445 brush cutter, the mount allows for side to side pivoting of the cutter deck I suppose to allow it to follow the ground contour and/or transfer weight to the 4 wheels on the deck. I'm just not sure how substituting a skid steer cutting deck without these features may affect its slope mowing capacity?
 
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   / Titan has sale on SSQA adapter #23  
I would heavily suggest Worksaver brand. Built in USA. Twice the price, but 10 times the quality.

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That or an ATI, Attachment Technologies. Very stout, made in Pennsylvania and worth every penny. Compared to the Kubota one, night and day.
 
   / Titan has sale on SSQA adapter #24  
I'm not an engineer. One thing I wonder about is whether the PT draft control is integrated into not just the weight of their front mounted brush cutter, but also the placement of caster wheels on the front? Many of the skid steer brush cutters are heavier than the PT versions, and have no front caster wheels or any wheels at all placing all of the load onto the PT loader arms. Pushing the load of a skid steer cutter further away from the PT would seem to also affect the overall stability of the entire machine.

edit: And on the PT1445 brush cutter, the mount allows for side to side pivoting of the cutter deck I suppose to allow it to follow the ground contour and/or transfer weight to the 4 wheels on the deck. I'm just not sure how substituting a skid steer cutting deck without these features may affect its slope mowing capacity?
The draft control is not only adjustable, but should be adjusted for each implement that needs it; that's because the draft control is load specific since what it does is to set and control pressure in the loader arms, which will vary depend on load and ground forces.

All the best,

Peter
 
   / Titan has sale on SSQA adapter #25  
Think you have that wrong... Draft control allows the THREE POINT HITCH ARMS TO RELEASE AN IMPLEMENT AND PULL IT OUT OF THE GROUND to overcome the drag SHOULD AN OBSTACLE BE ENCOUNTERED or the soil is too compacted to allow the tractor to continue forward motion.

It has nothing to do with the loader arms at all.

I use it all the time with ground engaging implement's like Swedish Tine cultavator's for instance.

Draft control only impacts the rear 3 point hitch on a farm or utility tractor (if it's equipped with it). Most smaller hobby type tractors only have position control. not draft control.
 
   / Titan has sale on SSQA adapter #26  
The draft control is not only adjustable, but should be adjusted for each implement that needs it; that's because the draft control is load specific since what it does is to set and control pressure in the loader arms, which will vary depend on load and ground forces.

All the best,

Peter
How do I do that on the PT 1445? I didn't see it in the owner's manual.

First 2024 encounter with live rattlesnake this afternoon while mowing with the PT1445. This is one instance where I'd rather be higher up on the Kubota.
 
   / Titan has sale on SSQA adapter #27  
Here is the adapter plate attached directly to my SSQA fork implement. I have an add a grapple attachment that slips over the forks.
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No problem with lifting capacity- hehe
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   / Titan has sale on SSQA adapter #29  
How do I do that on the PT 1445? I didn't see it in the owner's manual.

First 2024 encounter with live rattlesnake this afternoon while mowing with the PT1445. This is one instance where I'd rather be higher up on the Kubota.

Hmm... there was a section in the manual I thought on adjusting it. On my 1445, if you open the engine canopy, and stand on the side of the engine oil dipstick, facing the side edge of the fuel tank, there is an aluminum manifold block on the side of the fuel tank. It has a 2" diameter solenoid coil and a knob with a lock ring. That knob is the pressure adjust for the draft control.

There are several describe how to adjust it in the archives. You might have fun exploring the archives...
To point a few gems out;
Photo here from Mike O'Connor, @MikeOConnor,
Post in thread 'Draft-control valve replacement fixes all kinds of things'
Draft-control valve replacement fixes all kinds of things

All the best,

Peter
 
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Think you have that wrong... Draft control allows the THREE POINT HITCH ARMS TO RELEASE AN IMPLEMENT AND PULL IT OUT OF THE GROUND to overcome the drag SHOULD AN OBSTACLE BE ENCOUNTERED or the soil is too compacted to allow the tractor to continue forward motion.

It has nothing to do with the loader arms at all.

I use it all the time with ground engaging implement's like Swedish Tine cultavator's for instance.

Draft control only impacts the rear 3 point hitch on a farm or utility tractor (if it's equipped with it). Most smaller hobby type tractors only have position control. not draft control.
Power Trac tractors are a more modern design then 3pt hitch tractors as the implements go on the front of the machine where the operator can easily control the implement without turning backward. The larger machines (used to be all the diesel models) have a electric switch on the dash and a variable control under the engine hood that allows adjustable amounts of lift on the loader arms. Typically you transfer, for example 75% of the attachments weight to the tractor when the drive wheel torque is increased (which as you described, raises the implement) and the manufacturer labeled it "Draft". Similar but different. Farm tractors I have used sense the need for draft by the increase in drag/resistance of the implement. The PTs senses an increase in drive wheel pressure-torque and transfers weight to drive wheels to increase traction, not really to control ground engagement. I have only used for mowing. The PT brand of mowers all have castor wheels and the mower rolls all on its own wheels leaving the tractor with no weight for traction and can get problematic when climbing hills. Hence the need for draft control.
 

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