Titanic sinking a century ago

[WilliamBos]

Thanks for those links! Halifax holds a ton of history, including Pier 21. That is where my Dad and his family landed. A personal must see for me too!

FYI: In our provincial Capitol City - Halifax - there is a graveyard with 100's of deceased passengers. Halifax was a major port for co-ordinating the disaster relief.

Titanic in Nova Scotia

The role Halifax, Nova Scotia, played in the Titanic disaster.

Titanic In Halifax: Curious Public Were Urged To Avoid 'Circus' During Tragedy

Titanic film fans flock to Halifax for J. Dawson grave - World - CBC News

James Cameron's Titanic



In fact a lot of the movie was shot here in the city as well as off-shore.


Lloyd

 

[jonyyuma]

JDgreen227, if my memory serves me right I believe the water tight bulkheads did not extend all the way up for each zone. Thereby once the water reached the top it started to spill over into the next compartment. If the watertights extended all the way up she may have had a fighting chance if she was a 2 or 3 compartment ship. This means you can flood two or three compartments completely, and you should remain afloat. Big problems develop with say the pool being higher than your metocenter, or your fresh water tanks being slack, this would effect your transverse stability which becomes a big issue. Modern ships have an emergency dump were they can mt the pools in minutes.

I remember seeing a diagram of the wall details..sea walls did not go to the bulkhead. When it started spilling over the walls, it was nearly over for the ship.

 

[JDgreen227]

JDgreen227, if my memory serves me right I believe the water tight bulkheads did not extend all the way up for each zone. Thereby once the water reached the top it started to spill over into the next compartment. If the watertights extended all the way up she may have had a fighting chance if she was a 2 or 3 compartment ship. This means you can flood two or three compartments completely, and you should remain afloat. Big problems develop with say the pool being higher than your metocenter, or your fresh water tanks being slack, this would effect your transverse stability which becomes a big issue. Modern ships have an emergency dump were they can mt the pools in minutes.

You are correct about the bulkheads, quote from "Titanic, Destination Disaster"

"Only number one bulkhead, the first one forward, extended to the uppermost continuous desk, C. Bulkheads two and numbers 11 thru 15 extended to the second continuous deck, D, while bulkheads three to nine extended only to the third continuous deck, E.

 

[Lloyd_E]

Not trying to go off topic, but to me anything Titanic-related as regards Halifax has been long overshadowed by the December 6th, 1917 disaster in the harbor there, where a collision led to the biggest man-made accidential explosion in the world.

That's true. But if Cameron didn't choose Halifax as a shooting location and the Titanic didn't sink offshore so close to us - I guess the explosion would have been only one of a few claims to fame!

There was a second explosion years later at the ammunitions storage facility further up the harbour. It was contained to one or two buildings but had it not - it would have made the earlier one look like a few firecrackers going off. Today, as the area is being developed, there is often work stop-pages as equipment operators unearth ordinances left over from the explosion. They call in the bomb removal group to deal with it...

Scary stuff...

 

[brin]

I once sold a Mansion in Athens, Ga. that at one time had belonged to a family that all died on the Titanic when it sunk and I remember one day when I was touring and inspecting the Mansion, thinking to myself of the day the family left that home.....little did they know , they would never return...It was all left original with all the moldings and fixtures...It was a spooky feeling.

 

[Sigarms]

Not trying to go off topic, but to me anything Titanic-related as regards Halifax has been long overshadowed by the December 6th, 1917 disaster in the harbor there, where a collision led to the biggest man-made accidential explosion in the world.

Thank you. Learned something in history I never knew about.

Read up on that accident, amazing in the worse sense.

 

[JDgreen227]

Thank you. Learned something in history I never knew about.

Read up on that accident, amazing in the worse sense.

Glad I was able to inform you. There is another disaster that occurred on April 16, 1947 in Texas City, a converted Liberty ship loaded with fertilizer exploded, it was termed the deadliest industrial accident in US history, at least 581 people were killed. They speculate the death toll was much higher but could not account for everyone as remains were vaporized.

 

[Lloyd_E]

Thank you. Learned something in history I never knew about.

Read up on that accident, amazing in the worse sense.

As a young lad growing up in Halifax, my Dad mentioned to me that he knew where the anchor was that was thrown across the city from the explosion. I was young and didn't know its size. I asked if we could bring it home - he said sure - if you can lift it! So off we go to the Edmond's Grounds. This thing was 10 to 12' long and 12" plus in diameter but square in shape. Well we didn't bring it home! It flew, I bet, 2.5 miles as the crow flies!.

Massive!

PS: The explosions and booms/sound was heard 200+ miles away from Halifax.

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[dmccarty]

Glad I was able to inform you. There is another disaster that occurred on April 16, 1947 in Texas City, a converted Liberty ship loaded with fertilizer exploded, it was termed the deadliest industrial accident in US history, at least 581 people were killed. They speculate the death toll was much higher but could not account for everyone as remains were vaporized.

There is a good documentary out there about the Texas City fire and explosion. It pops up on the channels that show history topics from time to time.

Fire fighters were at the ship when it exploded. I would be surprised if they found many of those men who were on or next to the ship.

I did watch a bit of Cameron's TV show last night. I had to explain some of it to my oldest. I figured she had heard about the Titanic but she had not.

The simulation of the ship flooding was pretty interesting. I wish they had spent more time showing the simulation than talking with Cameron.

As was the question of why did the Titanic not capsize. Never thought about that before and it is a fairly obvious question. My guess is that the ship was more open internally than a warship or a cargo ship which allowed even flooding. Some of the ship plans they flashed on the screen showed this to be the case.

Later,
Dan

 

[mguitas]

They had on tv. about why it didn't roll over like alot of liner did in the past. meaning capsized.