To add Power Service or not?

   / To add Power Service or not? #11  
my gallon of Power Service says ULSD approved

I use it in both tractors and diesel trucks I've owned.

Blue/green and orange tractor dealer in my area recommend Power Service or any equivalent brand.
 
   / To add Power Service or not? #12  
I use Power Service. I can tell a difference in starting. That's just me. I haven't read any studies and I didn't stay at a holiday inn express last night.
 
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#13  
My dealer said the same thing..........just add some PS. It's not going to hurt!.... Consider it done!
 
   / To add Power Service or not? #14  
Who's studies ?
Funded by ?
Hopefully NOT the aftermarket additive companies....

Sure, a lot of people put a lot of STP in their vehicles for a LONG TIME in the belief that even if it didn't do any good it wouldn't do any harm and maybe it would do some good... on and on.

There was an independent study by me, myself, and my 92' Cummins, when ULSD first came out. In which I didn't put a fuel additive, such as Power Service, in the tank before I filled it. So because of the fact that when you take all the sulfur out of the diesel fuel, you take away the natural lubrication properties, (and don't think for a second that the sulfur doesn't add a lot of natural lubrication because you are dead wrong, think of what happened with gasoline when they took the lead out of it.), so it caused my injection to immediately begin a slow consistent drip. The lack of lubrication killed the rubber seals in the IP, and to the this day still does it.

If you feel other wise about it than I suggest you go read any diesel forum, and search for the introduction of ULSD, and see if the refiners really have, "made up for it in the mix". You'll find pages of reading material that will last you for more time on the toilet than you have left in your entire life time.

Personally you sound like a tree hugger, not that I have a problem with keeping the environment clean, I just have a problem with people preaching there beliefs on people when it's unwanted. You do realize that diesel engines are greener and more fuel efficient than a gas engine ever will be, even ones that are 20 years old that have no emissions what so ever. The tail pipe might smell a whole lot worse than a gasser, but we use much fewer gallons of fuel compared to a gasser over the same distance




To the OP, I would expect when they mean not to use a high sulfur content fuel and that it will decrease the length between oil changes, they mean if your are using a CJ-4 API rated oil in the engine. Cj-4 oil was designed around ULSD (15 ppm), running a higher sulfur content fuel with it will cause the oil to break down much more rapidly. But since it says to run a low sulfur fuel anyway, I would stick with ULSD. As far as a fuel additive, yeah, I would run some. I use the white bottle of Power Service all year round in my tractor because it has anti-gel properties for cold weather. In the trucks I'll alternate between the gray and white bottles. I have run Power Service for the past 4 years and have great success with it.
 
   / To add Power Service or not? #16  
With this junk they are selling now they call Diesel Fuel, I would put something in the tank with lube.:eek:
 
   / To add Power Service or not? #17  
Check out this link for a study of fuel additives. I found the article at Diesel Place web site. It is a bit old, but there is some good info anyway. I switched from P.S. to Opti-Lube. I can't tell a difference between the two but maybe the engine can.
 

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   / To add Power Service or not? #18  
Check out this link for a study of fuel additives. I found the article at Diesel Place web site.

Makes for interesting reading. Who is this author Arlen Spicer? I went to the site but couldn't find out anything. Does anyone know him or what his qualifications are?
rScotty
 
   / To add Power Service or not? #19  
Check out this link for a study of fuel additives. I found the article at Diesel Place web site. It is a bit old, but there is some good info anyway. I switched from P.S. to Opti-Lube. I can't tell a difference between the two but maybe the engine can.

I remember when that test came out a few years ago, but I've had good luck with Power Service so I didn't feel there was a need to change. Plus PS is readily available in stores around me. Either way though, as long as you have something in the fuel that stabilizes it, and adds the necessary lubricity, than your doing something good.
 
   / To add Power Service or not? #20  
A byproduct of combustion is sulfuric acid (H2SO4) and with the reduced amount of sulfer, comes a reduced acid accumulation in the crank case oil. This has historically been combatted with chemicals that buffer the pH of the oil (Total Base Number) which has been a monitoring point of the useful life of used oil. With less sulfer now, comes less acid allowing oil to last longer. Less soot is also produced, again extending the useful life of engine oil.
 

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