To load or not to load; That is the question.

   / To load or not to load; That is the question. #1  

Ugarte

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Coastal Maine
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Kubota L2501
Presently awaiting delivery of B3300su with LA 504 FEL and BH 77 Backhoe. Dealer threw in Rimguard in rear tires as part of deal. Owner's manual says to remove liquid tire ballast when using the backhoe. Not a practical option, to put it mildly. Tires are the larger R4's.

Cancel free Rimguard? Dealer said nothing about loaded tires and backhoe being a bad combination. Your advice for a soon to be first CUT owner?
 
   / To load or not to load; That is the question. #2  
More weight is always a good thing IMO. If you plan on using the BH 90% of the time, there's no need for the rim guard, but if you plan to be doing more of a split, then the Rim Guard is nearly essential unless you have a big piece of equipment behind you at all times. I don't have my 110 tires filled, but it's either going to have a bh or 1250lb box blade behind it at all times. I'd recommend the Rim Guard for sure.
 
   / To load or not to load; That is the question. #3  
I have a L3700 with a loader and did not load the tires because the loader is off 90% of the time and it is mowing. Did not want the added weight on the grass. When it is on I have 8 100lbs tractor weights on a 3pt hitch bar I made that is my counterweight.
 
   / To load or not to load; That is the question. #4  
Presently awaiting delivery of B3300su with LA 504 FEL and BH 77 Backhoe. Dealer threw in Rimguard in rear tires as part of deal. Owner's manual says to remove liquid tire ballast when using the backhoe. Not a practical option, to put it mildly. Tires are the larger R4's.

Cancel free Rimguard? Dealer said nothing about loaded tires and backhoe being a bad combination. Your advice for a soon to be first CUT owner?
...NO!:eek:
larry
 
   / To load or not to load; That is the question. #5  
Is the options there to try without rimguard, and if needed after tryout period, have it installed 6 months to a year later for free? I have loaded rears on my 2 wheel drive 8N, and that is a must. My L3940 does not have loaded rears, but 50% of its duties are mowing. The other 50% of the time I am using FEL with something 900 pounds or heavier on the rear. A loaded FEL and no weight on 3 point or loaded tires equals lots of rear tire spinning and diffculties steering. Philip.
 
   / To load or not to load; That is the question. #6  
I wonder why they would recommend removing the ballast when using the backhoe.
 
   / To load or not to load; That is the question. #7  
I wonder why they would recommend removing the ballast when using the backhoe.

I was wondering the same thing. Of course I don't own a backhoe, but still don't see the logic in that recommendation. The only reason I don't have loaded tires is because of the cost and lack of immediacy. If it was offered for free, I'd be all over it in a heartbeat!

Joe
 
   / To load or not to load; That is the question. #8  
whistlepig said:
I wonder why they would recommend removing the ballast when using the backhoe.

I know it's not recommended to load the tires in my 110 because it will overload the rear axels. Kind of like not having ballast in the rear - it's too much ballast. I would guess it would be the same situation here. May want to consider cast iron plates.
 
   / To load or not to load; That is the question. #9  
I know it's not recommended to load the tires in my 110 because it will overload the rear axels. Kind of like not having ballast in the rear - it's too much ballast. I would guess it would be the same situation here. May want to consider cast iron plates.

I do not see how loading the rear tires would load the axle. Some side load yes, but direct vertical load, no. All of that weight is carried directly by the rims and tires. I wonder how loading the tires effects the weight rating of the tires? Philip.
 
   / To load or not to load; That is the question. #10  
PHILIP8N said:
I do not see how loading the rear tires would load the axle. Some side load yes, but direct vertical load, no. All of that weight is carried directly by the rims and tires. I wonder how loading the tires effects the weight rating of the tires? Philip.

Don't have the answer to that, this is just what I was told.
 

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