To load or not to load; That is the question.

[powerstroke444e]

I have foamed tires on my b26 about 1200lbs and manual said same but it still gets like with light in rear with full load in front bucket and hoe on rear.
My vote is more weight is better

 

[murphy1244]

Philip, My thoughts too.:thumbsup:

 

[Ductape]

I have a B3030 with a backhoe and tires loaded with RimGuard. All i see is an up-side to the loaded tires. I haven't found them to be a negative even when finish mowing............

 

[whistlepig]

I am a loaded tire guy all the way. My tires are loaded with Rimguard. But I have never owned a backhoe (although I would love to have one). Just trying to figure out why a tractor manufacturer would recommend removing ballast before using a backhoe. There has to be a good reason for that

 

[Ugarte]

Thanks to all for your input. Maybe it's not the weight. Maybe the downward pressure of a digging backhoe--heavy rocks, roots, stumps-- puts too much internal pressure on some types of tires if they are 75% filled with liquid (as air compresses, but liquid does not)? I'll check with the dealer on Monday and report back.

 

[Ugarte]

Update: The potential problem is with the lug-nuts on the rear tires. The forces bearing on the rims with loaded tires and a heavy backhoe can and will loosen the lug nuts and apparently in short order. My dealer, whom I'm finding to be more knowledgeable and conscientious with each successive conversation, did not bring up this possibility because I had told him going in that the backhoe would be on the tractor infrequently and then only for what I imagine to be light duty projects. He said that he does not recommend loaded tires for this tractor if the backhoe will remain on the frame most of the time.

Lots to learn. (I'm off to search for a layman's guide to basic tractor/loader/backhoe hydraulics.)

 

[greenrider1]

Update: The potential problem is with the lug-nuts on the rear tires. The forces bearing on the rims with loaded tires and a heavy backhoe can and will loosen the lug nuts and apparently in short order. My dealer, whom I'm finding to be more knowledgeable and conscientious with each successive conversation, did not bring up this possibility because I had told him going in that the backhoe would be on the tractor infrequently and then only for what I imagine to be light duty projects. He said that he does not recommend loaded tires for this tractor if the backhoe will remain on the frame most of the time.

Lots to learn. (I'm off to search for a layman's guide to basic tractor/loader/backhoe hydraulics.)

I don't understand this one. The axle and wheel bolts aren't supporting any more weight with loaded tires. If this were true, you would have to unload your tires whenever carrying heavy implement for fear that your lugs will loosen. Look at the 3 pt hitch rating. Is it rated lower if you have loaded tires? Never heard of any issues with lugs loosening if properly torqued. It would be a pretty poor design if this were true. Granted, most tractors with a bh attached don't have loaded tires simply because the extra weight isn't needed if the hoe is always on when using the FEL. I've used tractors with loaded tires and backhoe for years with never an issue

 

[SPYDERLK]

Update: The potential problem is with the lug-nuts on the rear tires. The forces bearing on the rims with loaded tires and a heavy backhoe can and will loosen the lug nuts and apparently in short order. My dealer, whom I'm finding to be more knowledgeable and conscientious with each successive conversation, did not bring up this possibility because I had told him going in that the backhoe would be on the tractor infrequently and then only for what I imagine to be light duty projects. He said that he does not recommend loaded tires for this tractor if the backhoe will remain on the frame most of the time.

Lots to learn. (I'm off to search for a layman's guide to basic tractor/loader/backhoe hydraulics.)

Im gonna just call BS on that one. Tight lugs are going to stay tight. Unless youre racing the tractor, weight in the tires will have negligible effect on the lugs.
larry

 

[rtd]

The usual issue with weight has more to do with the ability of the brakes to stop the tractor. The combined weight of the tractor, loader, and liquid ballast might be too much if going downhill and needing to stop quickly. The backhoe is heavier than most other rear mounted implements, isn't it?

The mfr, not knowing your situation is just playing it safe.

 

[Oldtractorfixer]

I wonder if the issue has more to due with the rear tires being off the ground when the outriggers are down lifting the the rear of the tractor. That may even be why they recommend no liquid due to the extra weight the outriggers would be required to lift.