Toolcat to S185 skid steer to RZR 900 Comparison

[Hay Dude]

Did some mowing of the trails today. Much better than the S185. smoother and doesn't tear up the ground other non-toolcat specific advantages: faster (2 speed), high flow, AC, radio, etc. Downside is Toolcat is taller, need to do more limb trimming... Did do some crab steering in places to get the mower offset from the machine to get some side brush. Worked well for that.

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Looking Good! In the month I rented a Toolcat, I was blown away by how nice it mowed. That was probably 3 years ago and I’ve wanted one ever since.

 

[Xfaxman]

Looking Good! In the month I rented a Toolcat, I was blown away by how nice it mowed. That was probably 3 years ago and I’ve wanted one ever since.

Time flies when you are making hay while the sun shines, it was 5 years ago: https://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/toolcat/336024-toolcat-demo.html

 

[Hay Dude]

Time flies when you are making hay while the sun shines, it was 5 years ago: https://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/toolcat/336024-toolcat-demo.html

Thanks for fact checking me. :jaded:
Youre kinda scary sometimes :laughing:

 

[Xfaxman]

:laughing: Had it bookmarked because of the tire info.

 

[Hay Dude]

:laughing: Had it bookmarked because of the tire info.

I mentioned this before, but dealer in WI (800+ miles away) and I are having a semi serious discussion about a 2015 5600. I am pre approved for loan. We are about 2 grand apart. He texted me yesterday and offered me the incredibly generous gesture of “ an oil change and top off the fluids
What a guy! :laughing:
They had a bit of deceptive advertising going on when the ad first appeared. It was a 5600 with a Bobcat material spreader attached to the bed for $39000.
When I offered, they said the spreader was NOT included. Then they told me they wanted $41,500 with spreader. I commented that it was not explained that way and shown ratchet strapped to the bed and wired to the Toolcat.
Now the ad says spreader not included. :laughing:
It amazes me that they won’t budge on price OR offer a full uptime fluids/filters and Bobcat service. They want to sell “ as is “

 

[in2racn]

I mentioned this before, but dealer in WI (800+ miles away) and I are having a semi serious discussion about a 2015 5600. I am pre approved for loan. We are about 2 grand apart. He texted me yesterday and offered me the incredibly generous gesture of “ an oil change and top off the fluids
What a guy! :laughing:
They had a bit of deceptive advertising going on when the ad first appeared. It was a 5600 with a Bobcat material spreader attached to the bed for $39000.
When I offered, they said the spreader was NOT included. Then they told me they wanted $41,500 with spreader. I commented that it was not explained that way and shown ratchet strapped to the bed and wired to the Toolcat.
Now the ad says spreader not included. :laughing:
It amazes me that they won’t budge on price OR offer a full uptime fluids/filters and Bobcat service. They want to sell “ as is “

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I love my Toolcat but if you think about it, they got quite a gig going on. The price for the machine is stupid expensive. It is a little utility machine with a small diesel engine and the thing is crazy expensive. And even after many years, Bobcat can't figure out how to stop them from rusting into powder. In any case, I wish I could justify/afford a new one so I could nuke the machine with rustproofing from the start. My 2010 has 1700 hours, the exhaust manifold is rusted and leaking, the doors, dump box, exhaust, etc, all rusting away. But I bought it used, I don't know what it has gone through. But as I look for another machine, it seems that many reasonably low-hour machines have a lot of rust.

Good luck with your deal.

 

[Xfaxman]

in2racn, don't know where you are, but no Toolcat rust problems here on the 2013 F Series we had for 4 years.

 

[ruffdog]

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I love my Toolcat but if you think about it, they got quite a gig going on. The price for the machine is stupid expensive. It is a little utility machine with a small diesel engine and the thing is crazy expensive. And even after many years, Bobcat can't figure out how to stop them from rusting into powder. In any case, I wish I could justify/afford a new one so I could nuke the machine with rustproofing from the start. My 2010 has 1700 hours, the exhaust manifold is rusted and leaking, the doors, dump box, exhaust, etc, all rusting away. But I bought it used, I don't know what it has gone through. But as I look for another machine, it seems that many reasonably low-hour machines have a lot of rust.

Good luck with your deal.

It depends on if the equipment was used to snow plow/blow and/or spread salt. Just like RTVs or trucks that had salt spreaders on them.

 

[in2racn]

in2racn, don't know where you are, but no Toolcat rust problems here on the 2013 F Series we had for 4 years.

Upstate NY..... When I look for a used Toolcat, 1 out of 3 is missing the bottom of the doors. The door seals are dangling in the air because what they were glued to has rusted away. Seems that the year and hours do not make a big difference. I see some older machines that look decent and others with low hours and newer that are rusted out. Mine is a 2010 with 1700 hours, mechanically, it runs and works well. The exhaust header, door bottoms and dump box is heavily rusted.

 

[ruffdog]

Many times the original owners are schools, municipalities, businesses, and plowing services that need to clear ice with salt. They then turn them in after 1-2 years to get a new one.

 

[Hay Dude]

When Im looking at them, my eyes go straight to the lower doors, rockers and floor pan top/bottom, and the bed bed tailgate.
You can immediately detect when it was a salt spreading machine.

What suddenly changed my search is the traction control feature. I would have had one by now, but I hear traction control is a game changer. It also increases the price, because it’s a newer accessory. Add that to high flow and reasonable hours and hopefully a 7’ brush cat mower and it’s as if theres only 3-5 clean used tool cats in the USA at any one time.

 

[laurencen]

hay dude, like you I looked at many used ones, 4 years ago picked up a 2005 model, it did spread salt in its life but the owner did the work replacing the floor, sill and work on the doors, the box was repaired with new decals, after 4 years things were deteriorating, box sides flaking, floor was rusting where its original and basically needed more work than I wanted to do.

ended up a few months ago buying new, miss the lower door windows but not sure why, traction control is a plus feature as is the suspension, only complaint it will not reach full speed but I have a machine that will not rust away on me

 

[Hay Dude]

hay dude, like you I looked at many used ones, 4 years ago picked up a 2005 model, it did spread salt in its life but the owner did the work replacing the floor, sill and work on the doors, the box was repaired with new decals, after 4 years things were deteriorating, box sides flaking, floor was rusting where its original and basically needed more work than I wanted to do.

ended up a few months ago buying new, miss the lower door windows but not sure why, traction control is a plus feature as is the suspension, only complaint it will not reach full speed but I have a machine that will not rust away on me

Yeah I won稚 touch those roached-up salty ones. :thumbdown:

 

[npartist]

Utility company stole (ie condemned) 2acres of my property but I had them leave the stack of 40+ large hardwoods. Sold the highest dollar one today (24inx16ft black walnut). Timmy "The Toolcat" Horton was maxed out. Hydraulics just lifted it and I was more or less balancing on the front tires. Could have used some counter weight but got it lifted and on the trailer. :cool2:

 

[Xfaxman]

Yep maxed out, I measured our 5610 max lift at just over 3,000 pounds.

You were right up there according to some log weight calculators: Timber and Lumber Calculators at WOODWEB

And: https://sherrilltree.com/content/legacypdf/Log_WeightChart.pdf

Plus the weight of the grapple :thumbsup:.

 

[npartist]

So I also got a bunch of free "shredded wood" like a rough mulch from the utility company clearing 2 acres of my land. I asked them to leave one of the huge piles of mulch for me, I've been working on a nature trail for the family to walk around the pond and I was trying to figure out what to put down. It gets very sticky/soft in the spring/fall due to the clay soil but buying mulch or rocks would have been $$$ for 1000ft x 6ft trail. I made a video of the making the trail and spreading the mulch. The toolcat was great for not tearing up the ground yet maneuvering around the tight confines with the 4WS.

 

[npartist]

I go out every once in a while where the utility company is running a new pipeline (easement on my property). Find new boulders to bring back and use for landscaping or lining the above mentioned nature trail.
Toolcat has been doing great! Also lifted many heavy tree logs onto dump trailers from the clear cutting. Been impressing my neighbors with compact tractors.