Tooth bars

[jamestaylor72]

I finally got to use mine on the property today. Wow!! What a difference. Lots of clay at my place, and was cutting in for the driveway,, no problems whatsoever,, other than I discovered just how easily these tractors can roll/flip over. I really need to get the tires filled, or build a ballast box. Had the rear end off the ground numerous times. Not a good feeling !

 

[texasjohn]

Yes.... you MUST get enough rear weight to keep your tires on the ground... if you can lift them off the ground.... problems can happen before you even realize it..... and, simply filling the tires is insufficient, my opinion.... get a 500 to 1000 lbs hung off your 3ph...I do.

 

[jamestaylor72]

Yes.... you MUST get enough rear weight to keep your tires on the ground... if you can lift them off the ground.... problems can happen before you even realize it..... and, simply filling the tires is insufficient, my opinion.... get a 500 to 1000 lbs hung off your 3ph...I do.

Thanks John,,, I was thinking of perhaps a ballast box, or something similar to hang from the 3pt. And your right, problems did happen "quickly",, and luckily, I reaacted quickly enough.

 

[weldingisfun]

I finally got to use mine on the property today. Wow!! What a difference. Lots of clay at my place, and was cutting in for the driveway,, no problems whatsoever,, other than I discovered just how easily these tractors can roll/flip over. I really need to get the tires filled, or build a ballast box. Had the rear end off the ground numerous times. Not a good feeling !

Yes.... you MUST get enough rear weight to keep your tires on the ground... if you can lift them off the ground.... problems can happen before you even realize it..... and, simply filling the tires is insufficient, my opinion.... get a 500 to 1000 lbs hung off your 3ph...I do.

Since you are cutting in a driveway, hang a boxblade off the 3PH. It will help with the driveway.

 

[texasjohn]

James, for starters, you can put your bushhog on the rear. Consider, seriously, putting liquid in your rear tires.... search on TBN.... there are numerous ideas about what to use in prior threads.

Since you are a locomotive engineer and weld...it's possible that you might have access to heavy metal and can create your own rear weight box.

In my case, I had a hay fork, created a platform that slides on it, then added weight to the platform along with a pickup tool box. Makes a carry all that I always leave connected to the tractor unless using some other 3ph tool. For my money, a similar carry all for tools and supplies makes the very best rear weight approach... it does double duty.

 

[jamestaylor72]

Since you are cutting in a driveway, hang a boxblade off the 3PH. It will help with the driveway.

Yeah, I've been thinking of getting a boxblade. I hear their very useful, and would add a nice counterweight too.

 

[jamestaylor72]

James, for starters, you can put your bushhog on the rear. Consider, seriously, putting liquid in your rear tires.... search on TBN.... there are numerous ideas about what to use in prior threads.

Since you are a locomotive engineer and weld...it's possible that you might have access to heavy metal and can create your own rear weight box.

In my case, I had a hay fork, created a platform that slides on it, then added weight to the platform along with a pickup tool box. Makes a carry all that I always leave connected to the tractor unless using some other 3ph tool. For my money, a similar carry all for tools and supplies makes the very best rear weight approach... it does double duty.

Funny you should mention that John,, as I lay awake in bed last night thinking of my project,, I had thoughts of maybe talking to the Maintenance personnel about acquiring some pieces of old rail, and welding them together for a rear mounted weight attachment. I figure at roughly 130 lbs per foot, so I'm told,, I wouldn't need a whole lot to really make a difference.

 

[texasjohn]

Good thinking!

However, I worry how you will be able to handle the stuff if you weld it together... might want to create a platform and use numerous 1 ft chunks to get the needed weight. 130lbs each would be enough to handle, much less several of them together.... however, I bet if you explain what you are trying to do to your maintence folks, they will have a bunch of stuff that you can use... maybe angle iron, etc... I assume you can cut metal... go for it!!!

I have numerous chunks of iron that I use.. on various implements, as needed to provide weight... the flexibility is nice.

Again, think about how you can create a carryall on the back.. you won't regret it... and it will make a platform for your chunks of iron. As you expand your activities, you will discover that you will nearly always need extra weight on the rear.... that FEL is so handy that I never know what I'm going to grab with it and need to carry tools, etc everywhere as well..... also, figure out a way to carry a bunch of chains... maybe the maintence people have some busted ones you can pick up as well...

I assume you have chain hooks on your FEL? If not... they are very very handy.. can't do without them!

 

[jamestaylor72]

Good thinking!

However, I worry how you will be able to handle the stuff if you weld it together... might want to create a platform and use numerous 1 ft chunks to get the needed weight. 130lbs each would be enough to handle, much less several of them together.... however, I bet if you explain what you are trying to do to your maintence folks, they will have a bunch of stuff that you can use... maybe angle iron, etc... I assume you can cut metal... go for it!!!

I have numerous chunks of iron that I use.. on various implements, as needed to provide weight... the flexibility is nice.

Again, think about how you can create a carryall on the back.. you won't regret it... and it will make a platform for your chunks of iron. As you expand your activities, you will discover that you will nearly always need extra weight on the rear.... that FEL is so handy that I never know what I'm going to grab with it and need to carry tools, etc everywhere as well..... also, figure out a way to carry a bunch of chains... maybe the maintence people have some busted ones you can pick up as well...

I assume you have chain hooks on your FEL? If not... they are very very handy.. can't do without them!

Good Point there,,, I'm going to develop a platform to carry the iron,, to ease in installation, and save my back. Boy, you ain't kidding about the usefullness of the FEL, I'm always finding uses for it. Also, yes about a month ago I welded some hooks to the bucket, yet another useful tool.

 

[crbr]

I installed a Markham this morning. It's been here a week or so and I had sized it up as a pre-job plan for today.

I'm pleased with the product which mounts on a Kubota L402 = 54" wide.

A word of precaution when ordering... don't measure the width (for fabrication) from inside to inside of bucket (at 8" deep from cutting edge) as this will leave a fit that will require grinding. Measure the width (at 8" deep from cutting edge) from the toe of each weld that joins the side plates and bottom plate of the bucket. That will save you extra work when installing.

In addition, the way these things are fabricated, the mounting braces are welded to the tooth plate and they use an additional 3/16" or so to weld the brackets to the tooth plate, thus leaving that much more to consider for a nice user-friendly fit. I ended up having to grind away most of that (overlap) material to make it a flush fit (side braces and tooth plate), along with having to grind out (about 2" - 3" back into bucket) the toe and throat of the bucket's welds to allow for the close fit onto each side plate. There's still a few gaps here and there but all in all, it's a good product for 6 teeth and shipping at a total of US$268.

I do tend to think they weld these out in little of no time and from observing this particular bar, the heat drew the mounting brace a bit making a hammer necessary for placement, as well as a C-clamp while aligning to drill the holes.

Mine measured 53-3/4" (side to side, not taking in for the welds) and they took 1/4" from that as the fabrication dimension. To do it again, I'd cut the measurement by another 1/4" - 5"/16" when calling in the order.

Your mileage may vary.

:tiphat:

Not a bad deal all around.