Top link cyl advice

bones1 · Feb 12, 2008

Great advice folks. Dallas, do you happen to have any pictures of your setup?.
Thanks for all the information so far. Also, what quick couplers and which set of remotes did you use.I have the same tractor.

Dallas_Lilly · Feb 12, 2008

here are some pictures. I also forgot to metion that using this cylinder you can only use the upper top link hole. If you use the others you will crush the cylinder barrell. I went to napa to get my male quick couplers they were part #8010-4, then I read here that they needed to be 8010-4P for the poppett. I have not changed them and they are working but I will probbably get the right ones when I add a side link cylinder.

Lasgambler · Feb 12, 2008

I bought the Carter & Carter with the check valves and could not be HAPPIER!!!

digicamnut · Feb 12, 2008

What does the inside of the cylinder look like and how does it function?

jinman · Feb 13, 2008

digicamnut said:
What does the inside of the cylinder look like and how does it function?

It's dark and oily and functions very well.

bones1 · Feb 13, 2008

jinman said:
It's dark and oily and functions very well.

?? Me too Jinman. Might be able to rigg up a small light inside the cylinder so it can see what it's doing.

Dallas, thanks man, that's exactly what I needed to know. Could the qc without the poppet be causing your cylinder to back up?.
Carter & Carter is not out of the question.

Wayne County Hose · Feb 13, 2008

Carter and Carter is the solution. And that's coming from a guy that sells cylinders. I can't make the C & C cylinder for what they sell them. I own a hyd shop and when I need one, I'll order theirs. Is that endorsement enough?

GreenMtns · Feb 13, 2008

bones1 said:
?? Me too Jinman. Might be able to rigg up a small light inside the cylinder so it can see what it's doing.
Dallas, thanks man, that's exactly what I needed to know. Could the qc without the poppet be causing your cylinder to back up?.
Carter & Carter is not out of the question.

You really will want to follow Andy's (Wayne County Hose) advice on this. The CCM top link comes with a check valve to keep the hydraulics from drifting. When you set it at the length you want it will stay there even if there is a little bypass in your hydraulic system. That will not be the case with one you build up using Surplus Center parts. That is not saying there is anything wrong with Surplus Center parts. It is just very hard to find the check valves with the correct pressure settings to build your own. It might not be impossible to find the check valve but in the end you will pay as much as the CCM or more so why go to all the trouble?

bones1 · Feb 13, 2008

Well, I have a quick hitch on the back and that adds about 2 inches to my stock closed length of 18" on the top link. So if i'm figuring correctly I now need a closed length of 20" on the cyl.
I don't see that option at C&C. Want to keep as much up motion as I can.Or am I thinking backwards...again?.

jinman · Feb 13, 2008

bones1 said:
Well, I have a quick hitch on the back and that adds about 2 inches to my stock closed length of 18" on the top link. So if i'm figuring correctly I now need a closed length of 20" on the cyl.
I don't see that option at C&C. Want to keep as much up motion as I can.Or am I thinking backwards...again?.

If I had a quick hitch and needed extra extension, I'd build a bracket on the tractor's toplink hitch that would give me the extra length. From that point, the rod would extend the same amount. The problem with going too long on the minimum length is that a boxblade or other implement will not be able to rotate forward enough. This was my problem with a toplink that was just 2" longer than stock. It also would move 3/4" in and out like it was compressing air, but it was actually the rubber hoses ballooning that caused that to happen. The rigid hydraulic lines and the DPOCV on the CCM toplink totally eliminates any rod movement. I've had both types of cylinders and I can assure you that the CCM cylinder is the way to go. Experiment all you want, but don't deprive yourself of owning such an excellent tool as the CCM Toplink. I wish you were close enough to let you use both of my toplinks side-by-side. I'd make a "CCM zealot" out of you too.