Tow/Haul mode -- must use?

   / Tow/Haul mode -- must use? #11  
I am going to go against the grain and say use it. The Ally does not prevent 5/6th gear (OD), depending on the year with Tow Haul Mode. I was lucky enough to replace two transmissions in a 2003 2500 Dodge and will tell you they are very very expensive. The small savings you would have gotten can be washed away by just a fluid change if all you did was burn it. Use Tow Haul Mode. It's there for a reason.

I tow about 10,000 miles a year for the last 20 or so years and other than the one truck have never had a tranny issue. These are not small loads either. Average weight over these years has been right around 12,000#. I always use T/H mode unless I am taking a empty boat trailer or car haul trailer to get something. Once it loaded it goes right back on.

As for switching out of T/H Mode once up to speed that does not work either. Back in about 2004 we were in a boating caravan taking 6 or so 8,000# to 16,000# boats from Cincy to Lake Of The Ozarks in Missouri and the guy towing the smallest boat with a 1 or 2 year old 360 V8 4X4 Ram took his out of T/H mode. Within 10 miles it was smoking from under the hood. We pulled over and it had boiled the tranny fluid and it was coming out the dip stick and pouring on the exhaust. Long story short it had to be towed to the next town and a full tranny service was preformed. It has been fine since and he still drives the same truck, seen him last weekend at the lake, but he dodged, no pun intended, a bullet.


Chris

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   / Tow/Haul mode -- must use?
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#12  
The truck is a 2012 with the Allison. Performance is fine in normal mode and in T/H mode, seems like the rpm's run high and won't up shift quick enough as it holds the gears longer. Mileage definitely takes a hit. I figure higher line pressure is desirable for greater clutch holding power but the more aggressive gearing action really isn't necessary as this truck has more than enough power with the normal shift program. The 2012 also has exhaust brake feature too. Last time I towed 3000 pounds 400 miles, the truck didn't even notice the load back there and seemed regular mode was best/fine with no abnormality with tranny temp (145 +/-).
 
   / Tow/Haul mode -- must use? #13  
I have an 2003 Silverado 4.8 lt with T/H mode. The manual says to use T/H mode with 500 lbs or more in the bed,or towing a trailer starting at the same weight.
I haul 800 to 1000 lbs in the bed and with the assist of a weight distributing hitch haul a 21 foot camper. The camper usually is loaded to about 4000 lbs.
I have hauled it 650 miles 8 or 10 times in the past couple years. I only use T/H mode to start off and get to highway speed. At speed I usually turn it off. The last 100 miles or so there are a lot hills so back into T/H mode. The truck has 126,000 miles and still going strong.
 
   / Tow/Haul mode -- must use? #14  
There is actually some guidance in the owner's manual on this topic. Whether or not you use the T/H mode is entirely up to you. Your transmission has an oil temperature gauge and even if it isn't presented on the dash, the computerized stuff will cause it to shift to a lower gear to pump ATF more rapidly through the cooler if required. If it starts to overheat it is supposed to go into a limp mode before it can do permanent damage. This would be indicated on the DIC.

We talk a lot about transmissions on this forum, but don't forget about your differential service. If I was preparing for your kind of trip I would have my diff lube done if it is approaching a service interval.
 
   / Tow/Haul mode -- must use?
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#15  
jeffsw6 said:
We talk a lot about transmissions on this forum, but don't forget about your differential service. If I was preparing for your kind of trip I would have my diff lube done if it is approaching a service interval.

The truck only has 4k miles and I changed the oil with 15/40 Delvac just prior to the trip as I didn't want to trigger an oil change alert during the trip. At the lube service, the diff was checked and topped off (I guess factory fills them a little low).
 
   / Tow/Haul mode -- must use? #16  
A 2012 with an Allison is a beast, no comparison to earlier models. I have a 2007.5 LMM and as GM says, no need for tow/haul unless more than 8000#.

With the 2008 5.3 gas we use tow/haul when anything is hooked to it.
 
   / Tow/Haul mode -- must use? #17  
On the Allison it really is not a "self preservation system," though. It has temperature feedback into the shift algorithm that works no matter what mode it is in.
 
   / Tow/Haul mode -- must use?
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Bigkrank said:
........, and as GM says, no need for tow/haul unless more than 8000#.j

I read my owners manual and didn't see this spec/ recommendation/ guidance. Only a description of what it's for.
 
   / Tow/Haul mode -- must use? #19  
Both of my GM trucks (2004 1/2 ton and 2012 2500 gas) act rough when using tow/haul while unloaded. However, once loaded with even a moderate weight, they smooth right out. With the new truck, an empty trailer is too light (say 2000 lbs), but with my tractor on (~5000 lbs total) tow/haul performs similar to normal driving. The higher RPMS are noticed, but the harsh shifting is smoothed out entirely.

If it were me, I would run the truck in Tow/Haul mode. Thats what its there for and by doing so, you won't be guessing.
 
   / Tow/Haul mode -- must use? #20  
Superduper said:
Here's the situation...

2500HD Silverado w/ Duramax.

Will be going approx 1500 miles.

Estimating will have approx 2000 lbs in the bed.
Estimating will be towing 4500 trailer.

Do I need to have truck in tow/haul mode all the time or only when I need more aggressive performance? Truck performance feels fine in "normal" mode but I don't want to damage tranny.

What the tow/haul mode does is keeps you in the gear longer running the rpms higher and giving you more torque allowing less strain on your transmission and truck and also allowing you to get up to speed more quickly than if it were changing regularly because it keeps your rpms from dropping to lowly while shifting. Also you only need to youse while pulling trailers and for high performance. Also it makes your trans to shift down quicker while slowing down allowing you to hold back your load better.
 

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