Toyota Prius

[houstonscott]

That's why they won't even steal them, no one wants them, like I said without government altering the market and subsidizing them they would disappear from the market. High pressure diesel trumps all.
For you number guys like islandtractor and all you Prius drivers who may have the wrong idea about what you own.

http://www.autobytel.com/toyota/pri...ns-showdown-toyota-prius-vs-hummer-h2-105357/

HS

 

[murphy1244]

That's why they won't even steal them, no one wants them, like I said without government altering the market and subsidizing them they would disappear from the market. High pressure diesel trumps all.
For you number guys like islandtractor and all you Prius drivers who may have the wrong idea about what you own.

Emissions Showdown: Toyota Prius vs HUMMER H2 | Autobytel.com

HS

What crap!

 

[txdon]

That's why they won't even steal them, no one wants them, like I said without government altering the market and subsidizing them they would disappear from the market.

There have been no Government Subsidizing for over 6 years (maybe more). They are hard to steal because the electronics start button is in the dash and they look funny. The bottom line gas savings is real, but it is not for hauling any kind of a load.

 

[houstonscott]

I hate to notify the green crowd but a battery is one of the most toxic things ever created by man, maybe only nuke power being above them. A car full of hundreds of pounds of them is a rolling superfund clean up waiting to happen. Thank god there are so few so we don't have to deal with them down the road, at accident scenes, and one parked on the rural property near your creek rusting out, leaking that crap into the water system. Dioxin poisoning is almost forever.
Want a good laugh Prius guys watch this...You got duped.

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/727346/

HS

 

[Kyle_in_Tex]

I saw a small fender bender where a Prius was rear ended with a fair amount of damage. When the fire dpt got there, they hosed the whole Prius down with some kind of foam. I could tell the owner was fuming. They should've sprayed him down to cool him off too.

Not sure of Prius batteries, but nickel metal hydride is not good stuff and China controls the lithium market worldwide. And they know it and put "export" tariffs on it while throwing a fit if we even mention import tariffs.

That being said, if I could find a Prius that the price was right, I'd consider buying one. I just don't think it would fit the Ops needs safely.

 

[IslandTractor]

That's why they won't even steal them, no one wants them, like I said without government altering the market and subsidizing them they would disappear from the market. High pressure diesel trumps all.
For you number guys like islandtractor and all you Prius drivers who may have the wrong idea about what you own.

http://www.autobytel.com/toyota/prius/2009/reviews/emissions-showdown-toyota-prius-vs-hummer-h2-105357/

HS

That article has been debunked numerous times. No way the Pious has as big a footprint as the Hummer.

 

[houstonscott]

You sound like a denier of science. Hum.

HS.

 

[mistermcgoo]

I hate to notify the green crowd but a battery is one of the most toxic things ever created by man, maybe only nuke power being above them. A car full of hundreds of pounds of them is a rolling superfund clean up waiting to happen. Thank god there are so few so we don't have to deal with them down the road, at accident scenes, and one parked on the rural property near your creek rusting out, leaking that crap into the water system. Dioxin poisoning is almost forever.
Want a good laugh Prius guys watch this...You got duped.

BMW M3 vs Toyota Prius MPG Competition - Video

HS

Well houstonscott, I asked my wife and she doesn't know anyone using a Beemer for delivering mail; can't figure out why, they're only $20k more than a Prius. It is doubtful we would have bought a Prius for other than the mail route. The really good laugh would be watching someone with more money that brains driving a BMW to deliver mail or other similar delivery service, diesel or otherwise.

The battery is 89 lbs, not hundreds, they are fully recyclable and Toyota pays $200 finder fee for them. Ok, so you've got a bug up your rear for Prius cars and apparently their owners for daring to buy one. OTOH I may be misreading what your point is. If you are poking fun at Greenies for thinking they are "saving the planet", then I get it; wouldn't be the first time I misread people.

What's the ROI comparing a BMW 335d to a Prius? Somewhere around infinity I'd say, and last I checked diesel is about $.65 more per gallon.

Personally I could care less what anyone buys and could care even less what the "CO2 footprint" is, but leave it alone ok? Now a Chevy Volt.....that's a different story; the modern day Edsel.

 

[powerpace]

Well houstonscott, I asked my wife and she doesn't know anyone using a Beemer for delivering mail; can't figure out why, they're only $20k more than a Prius. It is doubtful we would have bought a Prius for other than the mail route. The really good laugh would be watching someone with more money that brains driving a BMW to deliver mail or other similar delivery service, diesel or otherwise.

The battery is 89 lbs, not hundreds, they are fully recyclable and Toyota pays $200 finder fee for them. Ok, so you've got a bug up your rear for Prius cars and apparently their owners for daring to buy one. OTOH I may be misreading what your point is. If you are poking fun at Greenies for thinking they are "saving the planet", then I get it; wouldn't be the first time I misread people.

What's the ROI comparing a BMW 335d to a Prius? Somewhere around infinity I'd say, and last I checked diesel is about $.65 more per gallon.

Personally I could care less what anyone buys and could care even less what the "CO2 footprint" is, but leave it alone ok? Now a Chevy Volt.....that's a different story; the modern day Edsel.

MISTERMCGOO. Give it up. I tried explaining the advantages of a Prius and I find that most of the people refusing to understand are from the Red States.
Minds fixed and blocking all usefull knowledge to advance civilization.

 

[Pops15]

Like anything else there will be those for and those against, and a certain percentage from each group will overstate their side's case. The truth usually lies somewhere in the middle.

Around here if they're not driving postal Jeeps the rural carriers mostly drive Jeeps, Chevy SUV's or Fords. We've recently had two that drove Crown Vics. Apparently the increased fuel costs are more than offset by lower maintenance costs.

I have a friend that's an engineer and I'd say he's very conscious of how he treats the planet. He's done a lot of research on the hybrids and electrics. He says the making of the batteries is a huge environmental issue that is mostly being swept under the rug, and in time will become a more prominent issue.

One of my customers has a hybrid car. I don't remember what it is. He indicated it got 47MPG on the highway. He said the car was expensive. I asked what the payback was. He laughed and said gas would have to be about 7 bucks a gallon for it to make financial sense to buy that kind of car. He said you don't buy these to save money, you buy them to save the planet. If that's what makes him happy, more power to him.

So I wonder what the OP did? I hope he found something more suited to carrying a load than a Prius. While they me be a fine car, what he had in mind wouldn't be a safe set up.