Tractor Confusion

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SocialWorker

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I am not tractor savvy and getting overwhelmed with so much technical information but. . . this is what I'm looking for. I have 2 acres, mostly pasture and I need a 3 pt hitch to operate implements and need a front loader. I don't want anything huge or complicated but want to make sure it's adequate to do some brush clearing, aerate, level ground, etc. Low maintenance is also a must - I'm no mechanic and I don't tinker around. I am most grateful for suggestions, cautions, guidance.
 
   / Tractor Confusion #2  
For only 2 acres, I would rent what ever ground equipment you need. A small tractor mower should be able to keep the grass and weeds under control after they have been cut once. don't overkill the problem.
 
   / Tractor Confusion #3  
SocialWorker said:
I am not tractor savvy and getting overwhelmed with so much technical information but. . . this is what I'm looking for. I have 2 acres, mostly pasture and I need a 3 pt hitch to operate implements and need a front loader. I don't want anything huge or complicated but want to make sure it's adequate to do some brush clearing, aerate, level ground, etc. Low maintenance is also a must - I'm no mechanic and I don't tinker around. I am most grateful for suggestions, cautions, guidance.
if you dont require a hst transmission kioit has a great special going on, go to the kioti website and check it out. mahindra is comming out with some stuff that would be perfect for what you want before the year is up and i think they will be good deals worth waiting for. kubota bx series and massey gc2300 should be looked at to. take your time these things are expencive.
 
   / Tractor Confusion #4  
Are you looking for new or used? If you can afford new, you will have a warranty at least for awhile and dealer support for repairs. You have the same amount of acreage I have, so you don't need a large tractor. If you have slopes over 15 degrees I do recommend you get a wider and heavier tractor though. If you are buying new, any of the major brands should be good tractors. In which case I would go try out the tractors and see what tractor fits you best and which dealer you like best. Don't be afraid to ask for references including some at least a year old. Find out from people who bought there what they liked or didn't like about that dealer and how the dealer dealt with problems. For compact tractors with loaders I will recommend you buy one with 4wd and a differential lock. I have found if I forget to switch over to 4wd when using my loader I will get stuck!

If you are buying used, do some research on the tractors you look at before you buy. Make sure parts and support will be available. Same advice if you buy from a dealer, ask for references. Be wary of buying "reconditioned" tractors. If they can provide proof of what was actually done to the tractor and whether it was done in the U.S., it may be a good tractor, but if it was done overseas I would be very hesitant. If you have a tractor savvy neighbor or friend that can look with you, he/she may be able to spot problems you can't. Look very carefully for evidence of leaks of any kind. Having bad seals may not be the worst problem, and they can generally be replaced cheaply, but it can be a difficult job. Make sure the loader works with a load. See if they have some dirt or gravel you can play in to test the loader and perhaps the 4wd as well. Run the tractor through all it's gears to make sure they are all working. If they have an implement you can put on, you can be sure the 3 point hitch and pto are working as well.

Take your time and try to have fun. Your tractor can last you your lifetime if properly maintained, so you want to take the time to pick the right one.
 
   / Tractor Confusion #5  
, 2 acres sounds like a kubota BX could be a starting point.
regular maintenance is a must, mostly grease and filters and oils. Do this and it will last a lifetime, or pay someone to do this for you. Or better yet hire someone with a tractor for the tasks required and, buy a ZTR.
None of these machines are complicated.
most compact tractor owners, tinker around and like to do it, do task for themselves, some trial and error required
consider this guidance.
 
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As mentioned before... you could pay someone to get things in shape and manage with just a mower.... but what fun is that?? A SUBCUT (Sub-Compact Tractor) is what you should be looking for. Kubota is the leader with their BX series. Massey Ferguson also has the GC series which are great little tractors. There are plenty of other brands with suitable models such as New Holland's TZ line. A SUBCUT with a FEL (front end loader), belly mower, and a boxblade should do you just fine.

Have fun.
 
   / Tractor Confusion #7  
Welcome to the forum, SW. You'll find a lot of support, knowledge and experience among the members here. You'll also find that most of us are eager to help you spend your money.

FWIW, here are some basic recommendations:

HP range- 20 to 30HP 30HP is normally enough to handle a 60" brush cutter. Next step down is 48" which is quite limiting if there's a lot to mow.

Transmission- HST simple, intuitive, easy to move tractor precisely, productive for loader work, most in this size range include a mid PTO that makes a mid mount mower possible in the future. Very convenient in tight spaces.

Size- Small CUT (Kubota B series) up to a small utility tractor (NH TC30) but larger than a SubCUT (BX series) The CUT will give you better ground clearance for that unlevel acreage that needs to be leveled and a full Cat I 3 pt. hitch. SubCUTs tend to hug the ground and their 3pt. hitches are of limited utility. A CUT will accept a wider range of 3 pt. implements; the small utility tractor will accept even more.

3 pt. hitch control- position control is superior to 'quarter inching' giving you an infinite number of repeatable postions against quarter inching's two repeatable positions (full up and full down)

Tires- Probably R1 Ag tires would give the best performance on most tasks. If a lawn is in the future, consider R4 industrial/ribbed tires. If you fill the tires with fluid, you'll get better traction and stability, but you'll also leave your mark on the landscape.

Make- The big three (New Holland, Kubota, John Deere) with the possible addition of Kioti. You don't want to tinker so choose a dealer nearby, one whose maint. shop has a good reputation. Remember, getting the tractor to and from the shop for work will be an issue. You might want to consider a trailer.

Front End Loader- get the strongest your tractor will handle. Bucket hooks are a necessity and the dealer will weld them on for you. A toothbar would come in handy if you expect to dig...you can add that later. Look carefully at the specs for the loaders you consider. Make sure you're comparing apples to apples. Some loaders are limited in lift height.

Specific recommendations (I'm most knowledgeable with Kubotas):
On the low end- B7510 HSD (21HP); LA302 FEL lift height limited (<6ft.), quarter inching hitch control
mid- B7610 (24HP); LA352 FEL lift height limited, quarter inching control
high end- B7800 (30HP); LA402 FEL lift nearly 7ft., quarter inching
- B3030 (30HP); LA403 FEL lift >7ft., position control hitch
- New Holland TC30HST (30HP); bigger, heavier & stronger than B3030, position control

Many here will tell you a smaller machine will do the same work a larger tractor will do, it'll just take longer. This is true. It's also true that a smaller tractor will do some jobs the larger tractor is simply too big to do. But only you know how much time you have for tractor work. The larger machine might be needed to allow you to complete tasks within your time constraints. Usually you'll get more tractor per dollar spent with the larger machines. On the other hand, small tractor maneuverability is priceless when you need it.

Visit the dealers, talk to the sales people, make them aware of your needs and background and, above all, try out the tractors you're considering. See how they fit, feel and operate and make notes of your impressions, both good and bad...for both the tractor and the dealership.

Shopping for and choosing the right tractor may seem like a hassle now; but once it's over, you'll miss it and want to do it again. So enjoy it while you can.
Bob
 
   / Tractor Confusion #8  
SocialWorker said:
I am not tractor savvy and getting overwhelmed with so much technical information but. . . this is what I'm looking for. I have 2 acres, mostly pasture and I need a 3 pt hitch to operate implements and need a front loader. I don't want anything huge or complicated but want to make sure it's adequate to do some brush clearing, aerate, level ground, etc. Low maintenance is also a must - I'm no mechanic and I don't tinker around. I am most grateful for suggestions, cautions, guidance.

Sounds like solid SCUT teritory. like a nh TZ series.. or even a tc18.. or kubota BX series.

If you are not mechanically inclined.. and don't even tinker.. then buy new.. or at least new enough to have -some- dealer warranty left.

If you can at least do an oil/filter change.. you should be good to go.

Soundguy
 
   / Tractor Confusion #9  
To follow up on Bob Young's point about tires, if you are going to use this on a finished yard, get an idea of the damage the tires do when turning sharply. Ag are the worst, r4's will do some damage, and I don't know about turf tires.
 
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WOW - thank you - obviously a lot of very knowledgeable people out there. I absolutely plan to buy new since I am definitely not mechanically inclined but am very good at keeping equipment maintained. For the last year, I have been hiring out - and it is nickeling and diming me to death - hence my decision to buy my own. As small as two acres can be, there always seems to be work that needs to be done.- and hiring it out is very expensive. Can you help me better understand the pros and cons of hydrostatic vs. manual? Again, thanks..
 

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