MossRoad
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Instead of scrapping mine, I sold it to an IH parts yard. It will see life again in many other tractors.
Tractor Performance: diesel vs gas
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Instead of scrapping mine, I sold it to an IH parts yard. It will see life again in many other tractors.
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That explains why I'm always so happy when I'm driving my tractors.
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I bet it smells even better when you have lung cancer and your on oxygen because of it.
Recently published report tells about how the finer particulate size of diesel exhaust gets into lungs and STAYS there, not removed by cilia. Diesel exhaust increases cancer risk quite a bit. I still like a whiff now and then for old times sake but try to not get hooked (I'm just chippin')
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Obsolete? I know of plenty of diesels harder to get aprts for than some gassers.. etc.
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But the gassers offer NO advantage whatsoever. Why bother. Rebuilds are no more complex on diesels, injector pumps get done by shops, so why bother with gassers.
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shakin
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why are you paying more for diesel, you dont need to buy over the road diesel which has alot of taxes in it. buy the off road stuff, many places sell it.
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Considering the higher compression ratio.. I would say that more skill is required to rebuild a diesel.
I can rebuild a carb on my desk.. I wouldn't feel comfortable doing an injector pump.
An injector pump and the injectors can require some specific test equipment not needed for the average gasser...
Why bother with a gasser.. remember.. Liquified petro engines are gassers.. and there are LOTS of applications for them where a diesel would not be appropriate.. like indoor warehouses.. So there at least one advantage that you dismissed out of hand..
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I've got a 99 dodge diesel with 342,000 miles on it. It pulls as well now as it did when I got it. I just got through moving our deer camp's JD 4020 with it. I check my fuel mileage every time I fuel up and over the year or so since we switched to ULSD around here I have noticed absolutely no decrease in fuel mileage. NONE, nada, zip. It still gets 21-22 mpg highway running around empty, just like it did before ULSD.
The 342,000 miles on this truck are the main reason I prefer diesel over gas. It's highly unlikely that this truck would still be running with a gas engine at 342K. With the diesel it's still running like new and still working pulling very heavy loads. The things that soundguy lists as a gasser's attributes, the carburetor and points, are the two things that I miss the least about old gas engines. I was a hotrodder in high school and spent most of my teen years tinkering with old muscle cars. I've rebuilt plenty of carburetors and set the gap on points more than once along with getting shocked by a few condensors. Thank God for fuel injection and electronic ignitions is my point of view, if I never see another carburetor or set of points in my lifetime it'll be too soon.
The 342,000 miles on this truck are the main reason I prefer diesel over gas. It's highly unlikely that this truck would still be running with a gas engine at 342K. With the diesel it's still running like new and still working pulling very heavy loads. The things that soundguy lists as a gasser's attributes, the carburetor and points, are the two things that I miss the least about old gas engines. I was a hotrodder in high school and spent most of my teen years tinkering with old muscle cars. I've rebuilt plenty of carburetors and set the gap on points more than once along with getting shocked by a few condensors. Thank God for fuel injection and electronic ignitions is my point of view, if I never see another carburetor or set of points in my lifetime it'll be too soon.
Egon
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And I am quite sure there are many others who will say the same thing.
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Injector pumps and injectors get farmed out. Would attempt to tinker with a spare pump during the winter sometime. But as far as the rebuild goes, I would say the compression differences are just numbers. Same care goes in to assembly as a gasser. Now if you are saying you can do a quickie shoddy rebuild of a gasser and get away with it, fine. Will it last, probably not. I say do it right the first time, or don't bother doing it.
If I ever build a hot rod, it WILL be fuelie. The card and all the crap associated with it will be on the scrap pile real fast.
Indoor yes, but out door forklifts... DIESEL. LPG and freeze up are a common thing during the winter months.
