Tractor Purchase Advice Requested

   / Tractor Purchase Advice Requested #11  
At $8000, I doubt very much that you will find a full TLB package that isn't in the well used category, likey to have just as many if not more issues as a grey unit or a chinese tractor.

A new chinese TLB from a dealer will cost about $12000, something in the 25hp size, as long as you're willing to wrench a little bit, drive a gear tractor, and put up with low end fit and finish.

Parts availability on the chinese units isn't an issue any more as there are two large national dealers, and several smaller dealers that stock parts. There are american cross-overs for all the filters, radiator hoses, and few minor mod needed cross overs for things like thermostats and ignition switches if you want to upgrade them from their chinese counterparts.

I went the chinese route as I don't mind getting my hands dirty every once in a while.

Conversely, A nice new package from any of the name brand dealers will be in the $17k-$25k range with a used unit being about 2/3 of that.

If the BH is only going to be a once in while thing, perhaps you can look at something that does 90% of what you need, then rent for those few times that you need the other 10%. The BH is the expensive option here, about $3k on a chinese unit.

I have used a skid steer to move large rocks and landscaping prior to my tractor and it really tears up the ground. A different animal all together.

Only you can decide how much sweat equity you want to put into your tractor. For me, a new chinese tractor was the way to go. For you, it might be a used Kubota.
 
   / Tractor Purchase Advice Requested #12  
I'd strongly recommend against a skid loader for the work you have in mind. Skid loaders are optimized to be great for loader work, but you give up a great deal of versatility and the ability to use many implements.

I'd agree with many of the other posters that $8k is pretty low end for a TLB; renting equipment or contracting out the work that needs a backhoe and shopping for a tractor with FEL may give you better options in buying equipment.

Just NE of Columbus puts you just about in my neck of the woods. There are multiple dealers in the area for all of the big three manufacturers, and several others that carry Mahindra, Long, Tafe, and other lower volume Asian imports. Take your time looking around and asking questions. Keep an eye on local classifieds and Equipment Trader, Auto/RV, and other publications for used equipment - much of what you find there never shows up online.

Good luck and enjoy the hunt.
 
   / Tractor Purchase Advice Requested #13  
You're right, a skidsteer might not make a good first tractor in this case. I would not rule out one of the newer tracked loader type units though.

In the case of a skidsteer, a buddy is doing this kind of work on a piece of property right now. It is working like a champ. But, he is expierienced with the machine too. It's a $25k machine which is out of the price range discussed here. He's grading, removing rocks, stumps, cutting roads, etc.

This talk about CUT's having the market on implements is, well, not correct. I have a CUT, and there's lot of implements; I have used a fair amount of them.

I have used skid steer, track-loaders, and some implements for them.
There are TONS and TONS of implements out there for skid-steer/track-loaders. It is amazing how many. It is also amazing how productive they can be.

Check out www.bobcat.com I do not have a Bobcat, and would probably get an ASVi-RC30 track-loader before a Bobcat, but the Bobcat web page is a great example. Look at the implements there. On top of that, the other OEM's have thier implements, as well as a thriving aftermarket.

There's loaders, backhoes, concrete mixers, concrete pumps, scrapers, dozer blades, mowers, augers, laser guided grader blades, brroms, bale handlers, bale squeezers, breakers, chippers, cutters, rakes, mowers, grapples, packers, planers, rippers, 4 in 1 buckets, snow blowers, snow blades, harley rakes, stump grinders, sprayers, tillers, sod layers, booms, compacters, saws, the list goes on...

Skid-steers/track-loaders are amazingly versatile, and have tons of implements. What really seperates them from CUT's is price; they are more expensive, especially the hydraulic drive implements. CUT's are flexible, no doubt, and much less expensive.
Sorry to rant; it is not personal.
 
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#14  
Thanks to all who have reviewed and replied to my request for advice for tractor purchase. Lots of experience and very informed advice. I am looking at the various suggestions offered including some of the manufacturers and models stated. Thanks again, dand
 
   / Tractor Purchase Advice Requested #15  
Dan, on a budget of $6000, you can get a lot done with just exactly the equipment you need through renting or hiring the work done. Many of the jobs you noted would take an experienced dozer operator a very short time to do and the daily cost should be $800 or less for a large dozer. If you wanted to consider it, I'd even look at a long-term rental of about three months and see if I couldn't do the jobs myself. I just seems to me that pushing stumps, trenching, grading, and contouring are the ideal things for a dozer, and for only 6 acres, you should still have plenty of money left over. If you were putting in a pond, it would be different, but $6,000 for 6 acres seems to be a very ample amount.

You could spend $6,000 on a tractor and spend all your spare time for 6 years and still not be finished. /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

I think your budget says "rent or lease," but not "buy." /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
   / Tractor Purchase Advice Requested #16  
The big question becomes........how long are you planning on keeping this tractor? A s-s is just not versatile enough in the long run,yes it can do somethings better,but also somethings worse.
 
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#17  
Hi everyone,

Thanks for all the replies and advise on my search for a TLB. What I really need is a backhoe and a loader. Having looked at a wide variety of equipment, specs, etc. I am now looking very seriously at a very slightly used Lay-Mor Model LB30 TLB. These are made mostly for the rental industry and it seems to be a very well built machine. I am looking at a LB30 that has a Robins 22 Hp gas engine although I'd prefer the Kubota diesel option but when its used options are limited. Cost is roughly $11k, which is over my original goal of around $8k but it seems to be able to do what I will need.

Does anyone have experience with the Lay-Mor LB30 possibly with the Robins engine? Please advise any information or experience you may have.

Thanks, dand
 

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