tractor roleover

Taylortractornut · Mar 13, 2005

Henro I had a friend get pinned between a tractor and a drag type disc like this one time. the disch ung a rock and the tractors tire dug in good and he had the diff lock down. The instant the wheels stopped the tractor went ovve backwards. just so happens he jumped but the was he was positined he the tractor kept up with him and landed head first on the disc with his legges sticking straight up out of the tractors. He landed like he was standing between the final drive and tire if he was on ground. when I got there he was more worried about the tractor running upside down than himself. When I skid logs or anything I have the box blade onfor a few reasons. One is to protect the tires or to back the logs out of a spot. Two is with a box blade ou can use it to hol the chain and lift the log up and if it does han the blade will ack like a wheelie bar. it may raise up a little as the lift floats but wont go all the way over.

AlanB · Mar 17, 2005

( Two is with a box blade ou can use it to hol the chain and lift the log up and if it does han the blade will ack like a wheelie bar. it may raise up a little as the lift floats but wont go all the way over. )

 

So, will the box blade just come up freely to the stop, then mechanicly stop and keep it from going over? I would think it would, but has anyone actually hit that point?

Would it just crush / break the top stops when it hit with the weight / momentum of the tractor behind it?

JerryG · Mar 17, 2005

I know that several members have mentioned that they think the three point implement would or could stop a roll over. I don't think that they will. Because, I have bent to many third arms. They bend very easily under compression. Now, the implement might keep a tractor without a ROPS from laying completely flat on it hood. That might save a person. I rescued a man that turned a 8N over backward one time. It was flat on its hood upside down. I would much rather the tractor hit the implement and roll to one side from a survival stand point.

Soundguy · Mar 17, 2005

Wow.. I've seen the opposite. I've seen those toplinks.. screw type like from TSC.. ful cat 1 size.. I've seen then survive 3pt problems and have things like upper lift arms brake when the 3pt got in a bind.

Perhaps those smaller cat 0 or minature cat 1 toplinks may be dicey.

I'd also feel safe with the old style toplink like the fords used. It was 2 solid metal strips.. used 4 carriage bolts to hold it together.. big thick.. beefy.

Soundguy

Soundguy · Mar 17, 2005

Wow.. I've seen the opposite. I've seen those toplinks.. screw type like from TSC.. ful cat 1 size.. I've seen then survive 3pt problems and have things like upper lift arms brake when the 3pt got in a bind.

Perhaps those smaller cat 0 or minature cat 1 toplinks may be dicey.

I'd also feel safe with the old style toplink like the fords used. It was 2 solid metal strips.. used 4 carriage bolts to hold it together.. big thick.. beefy.

Keep in mind. The toplink only needs to hold back the force of the rear tires spinning, if you are lucky. The toplink should start defeating the roll over before there is much 'tractor' weight on it, and while the front end is still at a high angle.. letting the rear wheels stall or spinn.. etc.

Other probelms do come into play.. like one wheel traction.. etc.. though.. Might become a side roll..

Soundguy

JimMorrissey · Mar 19, 2005

As long as you use your seatbelt too.

JerryG · Mar 19, 2005

It's not just the Cat 1 bars, I have seen Cat 2 bars bent. I have never bent a Cat 2, but have seen them. Any of them will bend right behind the ball, next to the threads.

tncruzin · Mar 21, 2005

Can someone advise where you can find ROP for an Iseki TL-1900 (compact tractor)? I'd like to add one to mine but can't find anyone who has them.

Soundguy · Mar 21, 2005

My guess is if you are bending a toplink.. you are doing something with the tractor you shouldn't be doing.

You can push (within reason ) with a resr scoop or box/back blade.. as long as you realize you are not a bull dozer.

I've pushed alot of maneuer piles, and scooped many cy of piled clay and dirt with no problems.. course.. i didn't abuse my machines either.

The only time I've had a 3pt member fail wa son my yanmar 1700 I bent the adjustable lift arm ( small one too.. smaller than a tc 18 arm in diameter.. but same length ). I then heated it and rebent it. Ironically it never broke at the bend. however a few years alter while moving clay, the ball socket came apart. I chalk that one up to partial damage by me, and an old cheaply made part, and alot of hard work. For what it's worth.. even the 'small' cat 1 toplink I had on the 1700 was much beefier than the pitiful excuse for an adjustable lift link that was on my 1700 when i got it.

I ended up replacing it with a lift link from a SCUT massey ferguson.

Soundguy

JerryG · Mar 21, 2005

My guess is if you are bending a toplink.. you are doing something with the tractor you shouldn't be doing. 
No, it is called rough terrain brush hogging. I quite using a third arm when mowing about three years. No more problems with third arms.