Tractor stalls with downward pressure on the loader
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skipmarcy
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Yes, the job is rather involved. You have to jury-rig a measurement device to set the height of the fingers on the pressure plate - I do mine with the flywheel off and sitting on a flat surface and mounting & torqueing the pressure plate down to do the setting, then disassemble it to reinstall in the tractor. Be sure to tell the shop to use BETTER QUALITY bolts that won't stretch and some Loctite. I believe the bolts stretched just slightly from the loader use and that little bit of stretch was all it took to loosen the bolts initially and they just got worse as time went on. Since doing that job years ago, I've since had to split the tractor several times for a broken bolt in the pressure plate - one of the ones you adjust to get that finger height setting. The head that's recessed in the face of the pressure plate snaps off. You will lose ability to disengage the clutch when this happens - you have to start it in gear to move and pop it into neutral to stop when it happens. That's how I learned how to do a split & clutch in about 6 or 7 hours.
Here what it looks like internally...Dropbox - IMG_5726.mov
You mentioned additional frame braces in a previous post. What do these look like and where are they installed? Are they available for purchase anywhere?
Finally got mine back up and going. Same issue. I tack welded the bolts to the mounting plate to keep them from backing out. Hopefully that does the trick, but know I’d like to added some additional bracing to the engine / frame connections. If there is a set of braces already out there they would save me an afternoon of custom fab time.
skipmarcy
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I just got to the post - I'll try to get some pics of them tomorrow (Fri). They came from Mahindra and really added some structure to the engine/trans connection. Supposedly these were standard in 4110s built later than mine. Honestly don't know if Mahindra/TYM produced them or KMW did for the loader kit. Mahindra sent them to me at no charge back when I was discussing my problem here back in 2004 or 2005, whenever it was.
OK - it's Friday and here's the update. I was able to take a couple of pics AND found the packing slip that came with the braces to me in July 2005. They were built by KMW Ltd. and the part number for the pair is 1590-2008, called rear mount brace package. If I remember correctly longer bolts came with them for the ones that go thru the frame rail into the engine block and the bolts/nuts to connect them to the crossmember.
OK - it's Friday and here's the update. I was able to take a couple of pics AND found the packing slip that came with the braces to me in July 2005. They were built by KMW Ltd. and the part number for the pair is 1590-2008, called rear mount brace package. If I remember correctly longer bolts came with them for the ones that go thru the frame rail into the engine block and the bolts/nuts to connect them to the crossmember.
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Thanks! I started to fab up some bolt on brackets connecting the same frame pieces and then got lazy and just welded some braces in. I connected the loader frame to the engine frame. I’ll look for those brackets, as I tend to work my equipment pretty hard and any additional support would be helpful. Thanks again for the pictures and info...very helpful.
The fact that you have the packing slip is amazing.... We don't even have OUR copy of the original pack slip any more...
skipmarcy
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I keep a file on all of my vehicles & equipment, being a professional mechanic for the majority of my working life I know the value of INFORMATION. Auto repair shops pay very dearly nowadays for information used on a daily basis and I'm not talking about a youtube video. I keep track of every service/repair done to all of it and receipts for items bought for everything in this flimsy little file cabinet I have. I also keep all the owner's manuals & other info on all appliances, tools etc. I buy. When I built my house in 2006 I kept the info that came with all the toilets, light fixtures, mains panel, water heater, heat pump etc. It has all been helpful at some point trying to get parts or match something or another.
