tractor wont turn over

[SaskatchewanBoy]

Hello my tractor wont turn over it, has plenty of battery. Just turns slightly but no noise its a kubota diesel. does anyone have any ideas?
Glow plugs light up but nothing. It was running when it was shut down. I went to check the oil and oil came out of the dip stick plug, but oil level was good as I always check?

 

[kebo]

LOL, saw the title of the thread and thought that was a great thing!! I hope nobody's tractor will turnover!

Sounds like it could be hydrolocked with fluid (oil? diesel?) in one or more cylinders??

 

[RadarTech]

LOL, saw the title of the thread and thought that was a great thing!! I hope nobody's tractor will turnover!

Sounds like it could be hydrolocked with fluid (oil? diesel?) in one or more cylinders??

I was thinking the same thing..:laughing:

I'd take the glow plugs out and see if it turns over then.
if it does put em back in and try again..
if not, you may have some real problems...

J

 

[LD1]

Hello my tractor wont turn over it, has plenty of battery. Just turns slightly but no noise its a kubota diesel. does anyone have any ideas?
Glow plugs light up but nothing. It was running when it was shut down. I went to check the oil and oil came out of the dip stick plug, but oil level was good as I always check?

Try giving us a little more information.

Like year and model?

How many hours?

When what the last service?

You mention that it was running when it was shut down?? What do you mean by this? Did the tractor shut down on its own or die? or do you mean YOU shut it down?

Were there any problems before like overheating, lack of power, noises, etc?

You say that you have pleanty of battery, how do you know?? Have you tried jumping of charging it??

Have you tried rolling the motor over by hand to see if it's locked up? It it is, there is something wrong with the engine. Could be a number of things, hydra-locked as already mentioned, or it could have broke somthing, seized ut, etc.

If it turns over freely by hand, then it is an issue with the starting system. Weak starter, weak battery, bad connections, etc.

Post back with a little more details and we might be able to help you better.

 

[RadarTech]

I should have added that when you turn it over, check to see if anything comes out the glow plug holes...

J

 

[RoyJackson]

I'd be surprised if if hydrolocked...how could it get that way after being normally shut down? However, since it was brought up, unless SaskatchewanBoy knows absolutely it cannot be hydrolocked, he should pull the glow plugs or injectors and confirm that. Once the glow plugs or injectors are pulled (glow plugs are the preferred choice), ry cranking the engine. With no compression, it should spin easily.

If the cylinders are clear, try jumping off another battery. Even batteries that provide good lights may not produce the cranking amps to get a diesel started.
Still no start...possible it jumped timing...

 

[Transit]

Hello my tractor wont turn over it, has plenty of battery. Just turns slightly but no noise its a kubota diesel. does anyone have any ideas?
I went to check the oil and oil came out of the dip stick plug, but oil level was good as I always check?

Oil coming out of the dip stick hole, sounds as if the hydraulic oil has leaked into the engine crank case from the hydraulic pump. Be very careful turning the crank shaft or you may bend something.

 

[whodat526]

if the oil is coming out the dipstick whole i would drain the engine oil and find where that extra oil is coming from and don't try and turn it over if over filled with oil u could bend a rod or throw a rod and put a whole in the block ruin the crank and cam all at the same time

 

[RoyJackson]

I went to check the oil and oil came out of the dip stick plug, but oil level was good as I always check?

This statement does need clarification...did oil come out of the tube (indicating an overfill) or was the level good?

Way I read it was the oil level was correct, but Whodat and Transit read it as an overfill...

 

[whodat526]

yes it does need clarification to have better help

 

[pat32rf]

A blown head gasket will let the antifreeze into a cylinder or an oil passage. Could be the oil pan has a few quarts of antifreeze under that oil....When the engine is shut down, the oil pressure drops imediately but the rad pressure stays up until the engine cools, pushing AF where it don't belong

 

[RoyJackson]

I guess SaskatchewanBoy either fixed his problem or doesn't care...one post and no responses to any of our posts.

 

[teg]

His Last Activity: 10-24-2010 02:07 PM (before the first response) You guys have to be quicker... :laughing: He waited 8 minutes...

Just kidding around but this is still good information... just have to find a spot in the cranium to put it... :confused2:

 

[Soundguy]

might even be diesel in there from a bad umbrella seal in the IP.

I think I'd par it over.. if it won't bar over it's seized or locked.

if it will bar over.. then I'd look at grounds, and bat cables, ends and terminals.

soundguy

 

[jenpepper]

Did anyone ever try to see if these suggestions worked and get back to you guys? I'm new and didn't know if I was missing the responce. I am having the same prob with a 6300. The sarter engauges but it is just a hum. The fan turns but r-e-a-l-l-y s-l-o-w-l-y. We had another problem with this same tractor that maybe related but not sure so I need your advice.

The other problem was with start up as well but you had to shake the steering wheel like crazy and hope the battery held out long enough for it to finally crank fast enough to start. It has been down for two weeks now and when I finally got a chance to make it to the field to look at it we ran into the first problem I mentioned. Please help......I am willing to try anything but, before I tried all the previous suggestions I wanted you to know both problems.

Also, it has a new fuel pump, the tank has been cleaned out (with clean diesel), new fuel lines to the fuel filter, new fuel filter and housing, and a new nutrual safety switch.

I will wait longer that 8 min for a responce, I appreciate all your help!!!

 

[brokenknee]

Did anyone ever try to see if these suggestions worked and get back to you guys? I'm new and didn't know if I was missing the responce. I am having the same prob with a 6300. The sarter engauges but it is just a hum. The fan turns but r-e-a-l-l-y s-l-o-w-l-y. We had another problem with this same tractor that maybe related but not sure so I need your advice.

The other problem was with start up as well but you had to shake the steering wheel like crazy and hope the battery held out long enough for it to finally crank fast enough to start. It has been down for two weeks now and when I finally got a chance to make it to the field to look at it we ran into the first problem I mentioned. Please help......I am willing to try anything but, before I tried all the previous suggestions I wanted you to know both problems.

Also, it has a new fuel pump, the tank has been cleaned out (with clean diesel), new fuel lines to the fuel filter, new fuel filter and housing, and a new nutrual safety switch.

I will wait longer that 8 min for a responce, I appreciate all your help!!!

Yes they do, http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/parts-repairs/185803-ignition-left-now-wont-start.html

I even posted back when I made a foolish mistake and didn't check everything right away that was suggested. It is only common courtesy to let fellow member know what the problem turned out to be. That way we all can learn. :thumbsup:

 

[jenpepper]

Thanks for the responce....it gave me some good ideas to try tomorrow. I will let you know how it goes.