Diamondpilot
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GreatWhitehunter
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trook
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I think you will be way ahead to get a gooseneck and b&w hitch now. I use a 24ft 14k gooseneck with a JD 4320 equiped with a FEL and 6ft mx-6 rotary cutter. It gives me about 2ft of extra room. I went ahead and bought the 24ft gooseneck because I intend to upgrade to a JD 5083 when the money is there.....:licking:
downslope
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What year is your Dmax? I've been looking at Curt and Reese for a 2010 GM and neither offers a 2.5" that will work with the factory bumper. Reese says you must remove the bumper and Curt offers a pretty heavy 2" 15K rated where you can leave the bumper on. The Curt 2" goes to 16K with weight distributing. Curt doesn't recommend the 2.5" with the factory bumper.
Speaking of weight distributing, will a SRW 3500 or 2500 like the OP mentions handle OK with 1,500 lbs on the ball or would you need a WD hitch?
GreatWhitehunter
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Curt has the same one I have for your GM. Look it up on Curt's site. It even uses the stock bumper holes as the factory one does. Here's a link:
Trailer Hitches, Heavy Duty Hitch, & Towing Accessories Made in America by CURT Manufacturing.
Put in your truck details and click the class V tab.
smbluthing
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Are u concerned at all about the Lippert axels on the trailer. Can't find any info about Lippert other than they make axels for the RV industry.
rasimmo
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I would not be concerned about the Lippert axles. I worked in the RV industry for a while,and was impressed with the quality af all thier products.
What I would be concerned about is that much weight in a BP trailer. I tried it once with a Kub M9540 on a 20' trailer. That will never happen again. I have not looked up the specs, but I think that would be about the max towable rating for a BP trailer with a 2500. I would definently go with a GN trailer. May need more than 14,000 GVWR also. With that tractor and the weight of the trailer you will be pushing it.
What I would be concerned about is that much weight in a BP trailer. I tried it once with a Kub M9540 on a 20' trailer. That will never happen again. I have not looked up the specs, but I think that would be about the max towable rating for a BP trailer with a 2500. I would definently go with a GN trailer. May need more than 14,000 GVWR also. With that tractor and the weight of the trailer you will be pushing it.
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I'll tell ya what. I have an 05 SRW 3500 cummins and a 20+5 Moritz gooseneck that I tow my 5083E with the loader and loaded tires. The trailer is rated at 14.5K and the truck has air bags under the rear. Please let me be clear.
DO NOT ATTEMPT WITH A BUMPER PULL WITHOUT A W/D HITCH!!! Even that might be mildly crazy, I don't know if I have ever seen a BP trailer for more than 12k lbs unless it was a pintle hitch behind a tandem towing a backhoe or dozer.
I have SWAGed my weight at around 10,500 when I picked it up, boy was I wrong.....
-Tractor-7,435lbs
-Loader-1970lbs
-Ballast(Mine has all 4 tires ballasted with Beet juice 12lbs/gal)-2328lbs
Total-11,733 w/ballast
Total-9405 w/o ballast
If your going to put the money into a trailer you might as well just get the gooseneck. It is a night and day difference how the trailer pulls and how your truck re-acts to the weight. If your planning on getting a GN, make sure you do some measuring/figuring. My combo fills my trailer pretty well but a brushhog would kill the rest of the space I have left on there. That loader is alot longer than people give it credit for. Just my $.02 Oh and the tuner sure makes pulling that weight alot easier!:thumbsup:
DO NOT ATTEMPT WITH A BUMPER PULL WITHOUT A W/D HITCH!!! Even that might be mildly crazy, I don't know if I have ever seen a BP trailer for more than 12k lbs unless it was a pintle hitch behind a tandem towing a backhoe or dozer.
I have SWAGed my weight at around 10,500 when I picked it up, boy was I wrong.....
-Tractor-7,435lbs
-Loader-1970lbs
-Ballast(Mine has all 4 tires ballasted with Beet juice 12lbs/gal)-2328lbs
Total-11,733 w/ballast
Total-9405 w/o ballast
If your going to put the money into a trailer you might as well just get the gooseneck. It is a night and day difference how the trailer pulls and how your truck re-acts to the weight. If your planning on getting a GN, make sure you do some measuring/figuring. My combo fills my trailer pretty well but a brushhog would kill the rest of the space I have left on there. That loader is alot longer than people give it credit for. Just my $.02 Oh and the tuner sure makes pulling that weight alot easier!:thumbsup:
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downslope
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I tend to agree with you. Even a 2011 SRW is only rated to tow 13K on a receiver hitch with WD and back in 2007 it was a little less, I think 12,400. A 12K BP trailer will be around 3500 lbs empty, so what can you load, under 9,000.
With a gooseneck you could pull a little more but then the trailer itself is going to be heavier. Also once you go beyond a 16K trailer the combo will be over 26,000 lbs, if that makes a difference.
