Trailer sway

   / Trailer sway #22  
Well your axles are in the wrong spot but I will offer that this isn't what caused your sway. What caused your sway is not having enough tongue weight which is not difficult given the goofy axle location.

So, you can leave your axles where they are IF you can accomplish 10-15% tongue weight.

This will mean that the rear end of your trailer is worthless and you will need to crowd the tractor towards the front as though you had built a much shorter trailer.

I use a W/D hitch with my 18' equipment trailer and my 25' RV in order to distribute the tongue weight to both truck axles which gives many benefits. I do not use a W/D hitch to reduce sway and I do not use a friction style sway reducer. Load your trailer right and it won't sway.
 
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#24  
I was looking at my trailer last night. I listened to my neighbor when I was putting this together. I took a trailer that was already built and tryed to improve it. The axles were already placed in the middle. He said that probably would not be a bad thing because he wished his axles were not so far back. He had tongue weight issues. I probably will move the axles back a little. Not that big of a deal. I have never towed this heavy before and I just want to be safe. This is why I found you guys. Your advice is valuable to me, very well could save my life, or someone elses. Everybody else that reads this gains the knowledge that really counts...experience. Bottom line...I was going to fast for the conditions and did not have my weight distributed correctly. Axle placement does not help either, but I have a lot of room to squat my truck yet. I know this thread has been discussed many, many time, but I don't think it can be discussed enough. That could be a real death trap running down the highway. Thanks for the advice!
 
   / Trailer sway #25  
I was looking at my trailer last night. I listened to my neighbor when I was putting this together. I took a trailer that was already built and tryed to improve it. The axles were already placed in the middle. He said that probably would not be a bad thing because he wished his axles were not so far back. He had tongue weight issues. I probably will move the axles back a little. Not that big of a deal. I have never towed this heavy before and I just want to be safe. This is why I found you guys. Your advice is valuable to me, very well could save my life, or someone elses. Everybody else that reads this gains the knowledge that really counts...experience. Bottom line...I was going to fast for the conditions and did not have my weight distributed correctly. Axle placement does not help either, but I have a lot of room to squat my truck yet. I know this thread has been discussed many, many time, but I don't think it can be discussed enough. That could be a real death trap running down the highway. Thanks for the advice!

Brian, you should pat yourself on the back. I can not tell you how many times we get questions such as yours and when we do not tell them what they want to hear the run away or stay and fight.

You are taking the right steps to get your rig safe. You have the right truck to tow with, a good heavy built trailer, and now the knowledge on how to make it safe to use. I am glad you listened to the advise. You will now be able to get right and enjoy your rig while towing.

Chris
 
   / Trailer sway #26  
Most people don't know or care about tongue weight. I used to be among those people. As long as nothing unusual happens, they will be OK. When something does happen, they learn about the importance of tongue weight and trailer balance the hard way. In your case, Brian, you got very lucky. I'm glad to see that you are intelligent enough to realize that there is a problem and talked it out to find a solution.

This is an item that is essential to anyone who tows various loads on a trailer. With the Sherline scale you can always be certain that your trailer is balanced correctly. When you have your trailer set up correctly, it will tow behind your truck like the truck/trailer are on a rail!

Sherline Trailer Tongue Weight Scales
 
   / Trailer sway #27  
I solved this problem by loading tractor backwards on a factory 18 foot trailer
 
   / Trailer sway #28  
Brain- so far you have gotten good advice from others on TBN. When Keith in space mentioned the WD made the world of difference, I can relate. However the trailers were already built with 60/40 Axel placement, that why it really helps with the towing feel. Once you get a high cross wind situation, high loads like tractor with canopy or a full sized camper that catches the winds, friction sway bars does really help in controlling the fishtailing pucker feeling. Now you are armed with knowledge to correct the Axel placement, then balance the load on trailer, measure the front/rear bumper with and without the load.
IMHO, Once this is figured out, then add the WD bars only to get the new feel since you already have dual axles and long open trailer. If the trailer is boxed in, I'd definitely add the sway friction bar depending on how long is the wheel base on the tow vehicle. the shorter the tow vehicle, the greater chance for swaying. the longer , more heavy duty the vehicle, the sway tends to lessens.
 
   / Trailer sway #29  
Do some research and find trailers like yours and make measurements before you go 60/40. Its not gospel. It may be 70/30, ect.

Chris
 
   / Trailer sway #30  
My trailer and most if not all deck-over tilt bed trailers are made that way. I have 22' Econoline 7 ton tilt.

Like everybody else has said, getting the trailer loaded correctly is key. If you can move the axles or get a different trailer. Otherwise, re-think the loading.

FYI, I did add weight distribution and sway control (Reese Titan Dual Cam), but I needed it for the weight I was towing. I recently towed ~13,500 through the hills of NE PA and she followed and behaved perfectly.
 

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