trailer to wagon

[TheKid]

when i wish to stop and load dirt, manure, rocks, sticks, hay, (need i go on) then i can "park" the "wagon" and load it while its stitting there by itself, then simply drop a pin throuh the tow tong and pull it to were i need to unload.

the same process with my current trailer means i have to back perfectly onto the 2" ball with my draw bar, crank the trailer jack up and down about a million turns each time....

Unless I'm not picturing what your saying, it sounds like you're going to have to back perfectly to line up and drop a pin through the tow tongue.

If you had a ball on your 3 point hitch and a jack on the tongue of the trailer all you would need to do is line up the ball to the coupler raise the 3 point so the jack is off the ground, latch the coupler and drive to where ever you want and then reverse the process.

That's the way I do it with my smaller garden trailer, and also by boat when I move it.

 

[sandman2234]

Tractor trailer dollie is probably a little heavy for this but might be worth looking into, especially if you can find one that the fifth wheel plate has been damaged or removed. For your use you might even remove one of the sets of tires on the duals to reduce weight. The other option is to build something similar to that so you can control the size and weight to match your equipment.
I would assume that you would load your trailer at the front first and like most trailers require, have at least 60 percent of the weight on the nose of the trailer, therefore making the position of the trailer wheels a mute point. It is pretty easy to tell when a trailer is getting light in the nose when your loading it, but you do have to watch for that. A good habit is to always load it from the front to the back.
David from jax

 

[zac]

some thing like this? Farm-Tuff Tandem Axle Utility Wagon — 2200-Lb. Capacity, Model# 03813-TM | Carts + Wagons | Northern Tool + Equipment

 

[Iplayfarmer]

I'm very surprised that everyone is suggesting a second trailer to solve your problem. The obvious solution is a second tractor. One to pull the trailer and one to load it.

In all seriousness, though, I think your idea of a convertible wagon/trailer would work great for you and what you have in mind. It sure beats cranking the jack up and down with every load. You've demonstrated enough understanding of practical limitations in past threads that I'm sure you're not going to dump a 2 ton rock on the back of the trailer and catapult the trailer dolly accross the field.

I saw one of these the other day before I read this thread.

Trailer Tug Pro, LLC - Gas Trailer Movers

I'm not suggesting that you use one of these, but I do think you could take some ideas from these. The thing I first noticed is that the ball is slightly forward of the axle. This would add just a little tongue weight and help with stability, I would think.

 

[SkunkWerX]

I use a ball on my 3-pt TowBar, set the trailer foot so the front is dipping forward a little. Tow it to the location, drop the 3 Pt. hitch low enough so trailer can un-couple and sit on it's own.
Fill from front to back.
once loaded, back around, line up the ball, and raise 3 Pt. hitch so ball engages and lifts trailer foot off ground.
Close coupler, attach the safety chains and drive off to dump.
Never have to touch the trailer jack.