transporting concrete off road

[radioman]

many good points here by others. question - can you post a pic of the said bridge and the footings underneath?

 

[sdkubota]

I've used both and the buggy is the faster of the two. For a monolithic pour like you are wanting I would want to have two buggies going. The cost of the second one would be absorbed by the time charges. There is one caveat though, buggies suck on rough terrain. You can go faster than you can with a skid steer but they will also hang a ninety degree unexpectedly if they hit any bump just wrong. I'm talking a ninety that will throw you off the buggy if you are at speed. If the machine is still upright it will automatically stop and look back at you like the donkey you rode as a kid would do. Have the same snicker on its face too.

Not to mention the case of beer it will cost you.:dance1:

 

[gwiley]

I had a similar problem - just about the same distance from where the truck had to stop and where we needed the concrete. We ran 2 mid-size bobcats to ferry the 9 yards of concrete from truck to the pour using dirt buckets. It worked great, but the two of us ran the machines wide open to get it done before it hardened.

 

[jbarker855]

Bridge is about 90 feet long, 8 feet wide. "Footings" are railroad ties on either shore that were put on the ground for it to lay on.
Here's some links to pics...
P1020702[3].jpg (image)
P1020708[3].jpg (image)

These pics aren't great, but gives a general idea.
No engineer would ever give a guess as to what it could support. WAY too much risk, way too many unknowns. This was recovered from a train crash in the 70's. The main beam underneath was damaged,/dented but obviously good enough to serve as a private bridge for the last 35 years. The car was originally rated to hold 135,000 pounds, but even if is was undamaged, it couldn't hold that now, because it is being supported only by the earth it sits on. It is being supported closer to its ends than it was meant to. I can see where the axles used to mount on it, and it is now being supported much closer to its ends than it was when it had wheels (so it is now spanning a longer unsupported distance).

 

[Robert_in_NY]

Bridge is about 90 feet long, 8 feet wide. "Footings" are railroad ties on either shore that were put on the ground for it to lay on.
Here's some links to pics...
P1020702[3].jpg (image)
P1020708[3].jpg (image)

These pics aren't great, but gives a general idea.
No engineer would ever give a guess as to what it could support. WAY too much risk, way too many unknowns. This was recovered from a train crash in the 70's. The main beam underneath was damaged,/dented but obviously good enough to serve as a private bridge for the last 35 years. The car was originally rated to hold 135,000 pounds, but even if is was undamaged, it couldn't hold that now, because it is being supported only by the earth it sits on. It is being supported closer to its ends than it was meant to. I can see where the axles used to mount on it, and it is now being supported much closer to its ends than it was when it had wheels (so it is now spanning a longer unsupported distance).

Your not too far from me, there are a lot of good options here but really, unless your finishing the concrete yourself then none of our ideas matter. You need to discuss this with your concrete guy. He may have his own idea to maximize his guys time there. You can mention some ideas but if he has his own buggies or other options that he prefers using then it won't much matter. Chances are if he has done any amount of concrete work he has ran into similar situations before. Good luck to you and hopefully you will post pics as this build progresses.

 

[SPIKER]

I agree with Robert above, get with local concrete guys, (ones you plan on having do the job) as they could be way ahead on all your thinking in similar situation.

I agree most concrete and fire trucks wont pass over that bridge (driver risk) most wont take on. might be able to buy a BOND insurance for the process but without engineering plans I dont think you could do that either.

I'm sure in NY you can't get away with a temporary supports in the center sections or several either.

Pumping probably easiest way & cost may be better than you think. again consult with concrete guys preferably one with pumper & maybe one or two pumper companies in your area.

Mark

 

[zing]

Could you ask him to bring trucks with only half the load per truck or if he has some smaller capacity trucks? Cement trucks are designed for getting around construction sites and may be just as manourerable as a moving truck, so the weight may be your primary concern. As another poster said, a bit of work on the tractor may improve the turn too.

 

[Stimw]

Around here there is no delivery charge for 5 yards or more.
You might be able to order the concrete trucks with less than full loads and have them cross the bridge. ???
Two pumps back to back makes a lot of sense too.
Check with concrete finisher and concrete company for options.

 

[BeezFun]

You could use one or more dump trailers. Mine will raise 12,000 pounds which is about 3 yards. You can rent them, and they're easy to pull with a tractor or good sized pickup.

 

[BeezFun]

I have had 35,000 pounds (full size loaded moving truck) on the bridge, so I know it can support that much.

If your concrete plant has aluminum body trucks they weigh about 20,000, so it could haul 4 yards and be at 36,000 pounds, comparable to what you've already used.