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Yeah, Richard, a willow is definitely different. I don't think there's any way you could accidentally kill one; took me two of trying before I killed mine.
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scruffy
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Bird, the CONTRAST came when I went from San Antone to El Paso! WHAT a difference!! Miles and miles of nuttin' out there.
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Scruffy
Lackland? I grew up in Bexar County, and for a while was at Fort Sam Houston. Friends I made from other states would often tell me "This is a nice place, but no trees." I would respond with " whatcha mean? there's trees all around here"
" I mean real trees, you know tall trees, like in a forest" they would try to explain. I knew what they meant, but it was funny listening to them explain that where they came from a Mesquite couldn't hardly pass for a tree.
Ernie
Lackland? I grew up in Bexar County, and for a while was at Fort Sam Houston. Friends I made from other states would often tell me "This is a nice place, but no trees." I would respond with " whatcha mean? there's trees all around here"
" I mean real trees, you know tall trees, like in a forest" they would try to explain. I knew what they meant, but it was funny listening to them explain that where they came from a Mesquite couldn't hardly pass for a tree.
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Ernie, I was at Fort Sam. I know what they meant about mesquite, it qualified as a 'bush', or scrub brush, but the Big Piney area was nice! I liked the oak trees around Bexar county just fine, and much of the state was attractive, including the 'Hill Country', though I've often wondered why they dropped the 'Mole' from in front of the Hill! /w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif Over all, Texas is a nice state, its just that I've got Oregon in my blood!
The Uncle in Dallas offered to foot me a new home (he was a building contractor) if I would stay in Texas. All I could tell him was that I couldn't think of a self respecting wood pecker that would stay! I like those tall trees and mountains, plus the creeks, meadows, hunting, fishing, etc!
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The Uncle in Dallas offered to foot me a new home (he was a building contractor) if I would stay in Texas. All I could tell him was that I couldn't think of a self respecting wood pecker that would stay! I like those tall trees and mountains, plus the creeks, meadows, hunting, fishing, etc!
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Tree Culling
Interesting thread. Around here when I want a new tree I stop mowing a patch for a few years until I have a patch of saplings...then mark the ones I want to keep and sickle bar the rest. But that leaves little stumps that are a bear to get rid of because there are so many of them!
I was wondering if wrapping a nylon tow strap around the 1" trunk and using the bucket to pull them right out of the ground roots and all would work..?
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Interesting thread. Around here when I want a new tree I stop mowing a patch for a few years until I have a patch of saplings...then mark the ones I want to keep and sickle bar the rest. But that leaves little stumps that are a bear to get rid of because there are so many of them!
I was wondering if wrapping a nylon tow strap around the 1" trunk and using the bucket to pull them right out of the ground roots and all would work..?
Pete
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Re: Tree Culling
Pete,
I do that but I use a chain. For the little ones you can just put the hook part right on the tree and pull them out. For the little bigger ones you can wrap the chain around it. If you can't get the tractor to it I also take a block of wood and handyman jack to get out little trees. Just hook the chain to the tree and jack them out. You need the block of wood though or if the ground is a little soggy, best time to pull them, it will pull the jack in the ground.
Pete,
I do that but I use a chain. For the little ones you can just put the hook part right on the tree and pull them out. For the little bigger ones you can wrap the chain around it. If you can't get the tractor to it I also take a block of wood and handyman jack to get out little trees. Just hook the chain to the tree and jack them out. You need the block of wood though or if the ground is a little soggy, best time to pull them, it will pull the jack in the ground.
dmccarty
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DarinRay,
It sounds like you are not digging up the trees, just piling dirt up around them?
I have always heard that if you pile dirt up around the base of a tree it will die. I have also heard that piling dirt so that it touches the bark of the tree will kill the tree.
Here at work they have hundreds of trees with MOUNDS of dirt/mulch pile around the roots and touching the bark. The piles are a good 2 feet tall and are about 3-4 feet wide on a trees with diameters in the 2-6 inch range. I have watched those trees for close to 10 years and they are all living.
At home I built raised beds around a group of oaks, pines, and sweet gums. The dirt I piled in ranges from 12 to 24 inches deep. I did keep the raised soil from touching the bark. I did this 4-5 years ago and the trees are thriving. In fact they are doing a good job of killing the shrubs I planted in the beds. The trees have sent up an extensive root system that has out competed the shrubs for water and food.
When I built the beds, it took me a year or so to finish so I guessing that the trees had time to adjust to the new soil. Just my guess.
So I the answer is sometimes what you propose kills trees and sometimes it don't. /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif
Good Luck!
Dan McCarty
It sounds like you are not digging up the trees, just piling dirt up around them?
I have always heard that if you pile dirt up around the base of a tree it will die. I have also heard that piling dirt so that it touches the bark of the tree will kill the tree.
Here at work they have hundreds of trees with MOUNDS of dirt/mulch pile around the roots and touching the bark. The piles are a good 2 feet tall and are about 3-4 feet wide on a trees with diameters in the 2-6 inch range. I have watched those trees for close to 10 years and they are all living.
At home I built raised beds around a group of oaks, pines, and sweet gums. The dirt I piled in ranges from 12 to 24 inches deep. I did keep the raised soil from touching the bark. I did this 4-5 years ago and the trees are thriving. In fact they are doing a good job of killing the shrubs I planted in the beds. The trees have sent up an extensive root system that has out competed the shrubs for water and food.
When I built the beds, it took me a year or so to finish so I guessing that the trees had time to adjust to the new soil. Just my guess.
So I the answer is sometimes what you propose kills trees and sometimes it don't. /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif
Good Luck!
Dan McCarty
RichS
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I have a willow that I would like to ...er... pursuade that it should commit suicide. Any ideas on how to do that?
I already tried the dirt/clippings thing. Piled them up a couple of feet. It actually started growing better. Incidentally having a chainsaw run amuck is not acceptable. My wife gives me a dirty look every time I start it up and even look in the willows direction. Thanks in advance.
Rich S.
I already tried the dirt/clippings thing. Piled them up a couple of feet. It actually started growing better. Incidentally having a chainsaw run amuck is not acceptable. My wife gives me a dirty look every time I start it up and even look in the willows direction. Thanks in advance.
Rich S.
Roy
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RichS: Don't want to be an accessory to murder, but the Forestry Service notes: "Girdling -- Completely encircling the trunk of a tree with a cut that severs the bark and cambium of the tree, usually resulting in the death of the tree." /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif
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RichS
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Thanks Roy. I'll give it a try.
This is a pretty tough tree. It has been hit by lightening and has a 4 inch hole where the lightning struck and a couple inch hole in the bark at the bottom of the tree where it exited. Yet it still thrives.
Rich S.
This is a pretty tough tree. It has been hit by lightening and has a 4 inch hole where the lightning struck and a couple inch hole in the bark at the bottom of the tree where it exited. Yet it still thrives.
Rich S.