Tresspassing neighbors

[strum456]

If you are new to the area, don't jump to conclusions. You might need your neighbors more than you think; they might become some of the best friends you will ever have.

 

[azranger]

This is AZ

13-407. Justification; use of physical force in defense of premises

A. A person or his agent in lawful possession or control of premises is justified in threatening to use deadly physical force or in threatening or using physical force against another when and to the extent that a reasonable person would believe it immediately necessary to prevent or terminate the commission or attempted commission of a criminal trespass by the other person in or upon the premises.

B. A person may use deadly physical force under subsection A only in the defense of himself or third persons as described in sections 13-405 and 13-406.

C. In this section, "premises" means any real property and any structure, movable or immovable, permanent or temporary, adapted for both human residence and lodging whether occupied or not.

 

[azranger]

You can only protect your life or the life of someone else from trespassers, but they would have to be an immediate threat. I would warn them if they did not leave that that law enforcement would be assisting them off my property.

 

[Wagtail]

... This boy not only cleaned up the cans and bottles they put there , he picked up other stuff that was trash that was in the wood line . About a 20 yard can . I was impressed . i asked him where he worked , he didnt have a job. I made a phone call to a buddy of mine told him , he said " send the guy over " He got hired and is still working for the guy .

Good on you, Sprinklerman. :thumbsup:

 

[Wagtail]

And your story just keep changing ........ and changing.

Over and out!

Nope, Jstpssng's posts read pretty straightforward and consistent to me... and I'm reading it upside-down!

As you blokes say, "Different State, different rules."

 

[newbury]

There's a bit of a difference between roaming, and doing what you please.

But yes the undeveloped part of my land is open to responsible use, and it's not unheard of for me to leave my house and see somebody coming out of the road through my field. I generally know who they are, and by having people I know use it it's being watched even when I'm not home.

I had a hunt club renting some of my land in Mississippi for years, until the planted pine grew up. Always seemed like I had an armed gang protecting my property and paying me for the right to protect.

This is Virginia
On Posted Property:
It is unlawful to hunt without written permission of the landowner and is punishable by a fine of up to $2500 and/or 12 months in jail.

On Property Not Posted:
It is unlawful to hunt any unposted property without permission of the landowner and is punishable by a fine of up to $500.

My land is clearly posted.. have walked the entire border posting and marking it according to Virginia law. Soon after I did that, an adjoining 100 acres was posted by the hunt club there.

Which is a good way to keep your land protected.

When I was hunting with my daughter a few dogs came thru....they chased a few deer thru the property at warp speed. Not what I was hoping for. I don't hunt with dogs, but many people in VA do. One of the dogs camped out below our stand until his owner came thru to collect him. In Virginia it is legal to enter another person's land to retrieve a dog but you may not carry a weapon. He was not armed. He was cordial. I got down and said hello. He took his dog and left. I wasn't particularly pleased, as they had to drive up the private road and dump the dogs out of the truck for them to come across the land like that, but for all I know the might own one of the parcels above me (up the mountain) and the parcel beyond me. He obeyed the law and was respectful of my property. I'm fine with it. Tomorrow I will stop at the neighbor's house around lunch time since I am hunting in the morning. I will introduce myself and point out the no trespassing signs. I will give him my phone number in the event that there was an emergency...as I said before, unforeseen things occur.
Concepts of ownership are different in different places. I have busted my butt all my life to be able to buy land that Is mine, so that I can hunt on my own land. Partly because I want to hunt without having some dipstick stomp all over my hunt. There are a lot of people I have run into on public land who just didn't handle themselves in a safe or respectful manner. I am also building my home here and will be farming it ( and orchard). I don't own the land to show off, I own it because I wanted it and so I saved and sacrificed for the last 20 years to get it. He could have asked permission....he didn't. He saw the signs....all of them, and he did what he wanted on my land anyway...he wanted to walk around.

I may have missed it but how could he ask permission if you were not there? Did you post a phone #?

He has 3.5 acres that he rents...not a lot but definitely enough to take a stroll or do some target shooting since his place is tucked in agains a 65 acre parcel with a small barn and house on it and beyond that is a huge multi hundred acre parcel with a single house on it. Heck, his land is enough to hunt on. But he wanted to take a stroll on my land. So he did. Having someone just decide they want to waltz all over my land doesn't sit too well with me. The previous owner might have had a ***-bi-yah attitude but I don't. I want my privacy. I want to be able to hunt with my kids and not be disturbed. I want to plant trees and not have someone walking around touching my fence (which may be electric ) or my tractor or my supplies that I leave on the farm in a shed. The other picture is someone checking out my tractor and it is absolutely not visible fro the road. It's 1/4 mile thru the woods from the road to my tractor. You don't just happen to end up there. you go there for a reason. If you see no trespassing signs and private road/keep out signs and go there anyway, you go there because you are a criminal.

I would be more concerned with someone going 1/4 mile through the woods to check out my tractor.

And your story just keep changing ........ and changing.

Over and out!

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Nope, Jstpssng's posts read pretty straightforward and consistent to me... and I'm reading it upside-down!

As you blokes say, "Different State, different rules."

Fully agree, but enlighten us, what are the rules down under? Just wondering.
/edit - For clarification I fully agree that Jstpssng's posts read pretty straightforward and consistent to me...

 

[Luke'sScreenName]

In NH you DO have to post a phone number on 'no hunting' signs! I'm used to it now but that was a shock.

And yes Jstpssng, please read each post twice or three times before you make a reply, especially an irritated/angry one. Thanks.

 

[Deerherd]

No where in the NH State statute does it say a phone number is required:

Under state law (RSA 635:4), the legal manner of posting calls for posting durable signs with any words describing the physical activity prohibited, such as "No Hunting or Trespassing," in letters at least 2 inches high, and with the owner's name and address. The signs may be no further than 100 yards apart on all sides of the property and shall also be posted at gates, bars and all commonly used entrances.

 

[Gary Fowler]

With regard to posting:
I just found out that here in Arkansas at least, there is a paint called POSTED PURPLE that is all that is needed to post your property, no signs required. There is a prescribed distance that trees or other objects must have the paint (don't recall the distance) and I do recall seeing that painted mark on trees on some land parcels. Lots cheaper than a lot of NO TRESPASSING signs nailed to trees.

We have a pond on our property that is at least 40 years old and had been fished by locals all the time prior to our buying the place. It took solid fencing topped with barber wire to discourage trespassers.
We built a gravel road for golf cart and ATV use between my house and brother-in-law and before we completed the fence and gates at my house, salesmen would try to use that road to get to BIL's house which entailed driving thru my front yard. Some folks are just (put your own word here).

Thankfully all our problems went away after constructing a good fence all around the property. No signs necessary.

 

[davesl708]

With regard to posting:
I just found out that here in Arkansas at least, there is a paint called POSTED PURPLE that is all that is needed to post your property, no signs required. There is a prescribed distance that trees or other objects must have the paint (don't recall the distance) and I do recall seeing that painted mark on trees on some land parcels. Lots cheaper than a lot of NO TRESPASSING signs nailed to trees.

We have a pond on our property that is at least 40 years old and had been fished by locals all the time prior to our buying the place. It took solid fencing topped with barber wire to discourage trespassers.
We built a gravel road for golf cart and ATV use between my house and brother-in-law and before we completed the fence and gates at my house, salesmen would try to use that road to get to BIL's house which entailed driving thru my front yard. Some folks are just (put your own word here).

Thankfully all our problems went away after constructing a good fence all around the property. No signs necessary.

Kansas also has the purple paint notice. It can be on a tree, post or old tire but means "No Trespassing" No need for no hunting, fishing or anything else. No trespassing means no trespassing. Poaching (hunting without written permission) can cost you your firearms or fishing gear as well as the vehicle you used to commit the crime. Your friends gear too if they are with you.