Trip to the Big City

   / Trip to the Big City #11  
Went to Oakland, CA yesterday to review a unique wall and door system for our new residence. The trip reminded me why I like Rural Living.

Traffic was a nightmare, of course. Bumper to bumper on I-80 in both directions. We finished our visit and departed at 1:30pm. Leaving by 1:30 apparently just misses the "afternoon commute" when the freeway jams up even worse. We were told if we waited another 30 minutes to leave it would add several more hours to travel the same distance-- due to sitting in a traffic snarl that barely moves.

We used the Ashby Avenue on-ramp onto I-80. This is quite a long on-ramp, and the entire length was "populated." The attached picture only shows one small part of a very long encampment.

It was a good reminder how much we enjoy Rural Living compared to the "Big City"!! :D

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Funny that there are solar panels sticking up out of the middle of that little tent compound. Wonder if they are running an air conditioner in there?
 
   / Trip to the Big City #12  
Went to Oakland, CA yesterday to review a unique wall and door system for our new residence. The trip reminded me why I like Rural Living.

Traffic was a nightmare, of course. Bumper to bumper on I-80 in both directions. We finished our visit and departed at 1:30pm. Leaving by 1:30 apparently just misses the "afternoon commute" when the freeway jams up even worse. We were told if we waited another 30 minutes to leave it would add several more hours to travel the same distance-- due to sitting in a traffic snarl that barely moves.
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A few years ago we flew into Seattle. I had read that to get out of town by 3:30pm if I remember correctly. I really did not believe one had to be north of Seattle by 3:30pm but that is what I read and planned to do. The plane flew over I5 around 2:30 or 3:00 and the interstate was empty so I figured what I had read was wrong. We got held up getting a rental car because the employee was trying to up sell us on every single thing. :mad: We got on the road around 3:15 I believe and I5 was clear. I was thinking the 3:30pm deadline was BS...

I was wrong. :shocked:

At 3:30pm, we were still in Seattle, and I5 went from barely used to a parking lot. Twas like someone flicked a switch. :confused3::thumbdown::laughing::laughing::laughing:

Living with lots of people makes people, if not defensive, at least less friendly at first blush which is not an unsurprising reaction since it just takes one person to cause problems.

We just returned from Ireland were we spent quite a bit of time in an apartment in a small town in rural, western Ireland and then some time living in a house in Dublin. Living in a house and apartment as opposed to a hotel gets you closer to the local people and you live like they do. The simple thing of having to shop for food and doing your own cooking adds so much to a trip compared with ordering food in a restaurant. We met quite a few people and had long, deep conversations with many people in western Ireland. Just got some email from one couple we met.

In Dublin we had some interesting conversations with people but NOT in the neighbor hood where we rented the house. :shocked: We were kinda surprised by this since we thought we would see more of the neighbors. Frankly, it was like going to a US city. You would see people, but not interact with them much, if at all. Ironically, the longest conversations with people in Dublin were two young women we met at Trinity College. One of the women was going to the College and her friend was visiting. They were both from the states and used to live where I lived in South FLA! :shocked::laughing::laughing::laughing:

The other person we had an interesting, but too short conversation was ANOTHER American who was working at a Dublin museum. He was one of three American men we met who where in Ireland because they had married Irish women. :shocked::D At the Emigration museum in Dublin, one of the tidbits of information they had, was that in the 50s/60s, 75% of Irish leaving the country where women. Guess we had met some of the men those women married and eventually returned to Ireland with them.

People in Dublin were not rude or anything just had their shields up so to speak. The only "rudeness" we saw was a guy on the tram who was riding without paying. The transport police/Garda came on the tram at our stop. I had noticed them waiting even though they were in plain clothes. :laughing::laughing::laughing: They saw us swipe our transit card but they still checked us on the tram. After all the card could have expired. :D The police checked two guys in front of us and one refused to show his transport card which can result in one getting tossed off the tram. The guy had an attitude and was showing his a...ss so he got thrown off the tram. Guy next to him did not have a card and thus did not pay. However, he did not show his a..ss so he just got a ticket.

We did see people helping people in trouble which was nice but that is another story. :laughing::laughing::laughing:

Those two guys were the "rudest" Irish we saw during the trip which really was not bad given the amount of time we where there. However, in Dublin there were LOTS of rude tourists, and unfortunately, two of them were Americans. :mad: One was shouting at other people in his party in the courtyard at Trinity College in front of hundreds, if not thousands of people. :mad: Twas embarrassing and one guy in the group was trying to shut him up. The other guy was in a an alley leaving a library and thankfully there was only us and one other couple who could hear the idjit. He was talking to someone on his phone, which was in speaker phone mode and he was wearing a ear buds which was odd. Since the phone was in speaker phone mode he was talking very loudly :rolleyes so the person he was talking to could hear. :rolleyes: Twas really stupid but what made it worse was the guy was talking about his s...x life. Really? You have to walk around the streets of a city talking loudly into a phone, so everyone can hear the conversation, while you talk about your s...x life? Really? To make it worse he was an American. :mad: Thankfully, only us and one other couple heard him at least until he went one way and we went another. Hopefully, traffic noise drowned out his conversation so that others could not hear.

I don't think that idjit would have walked around the small Irish town we were in having that conversation.

While it was embarrassing seeing these two rude Americans in another country, we saw far more bad behavior by other non Irish visitors. :rolleyes: Kinda sad but I guess when people go on vacation they let loose too much.

Funny thing was helping tourists who were walking around lost just as we were. :laughing::laughing::laughing:

Later,
Dan
 
   / Trip to the Big City #13  
I was a country boy, moved to a mid sized city while in college and stayed for 15 years. I can honestly say there is good and bad to both life styles. My "city" living was really suburban. I drove by our old house just last night. It was on a 1/4 acre and in the midst of a real neighborhood. I miss that part.

But I needed space. Felt closed in all the time. SO much nicer in NH.

Still fight traffic though. I'm now one of the faceless masses that commutes into MA from NH for work. We are a large, sad bunch.

I feel your pain. I am lucky... live in the Blue Ridge Mountains, 2 miles outside of a town with a few hundred people. House and shop in the middle of a hundred acres, that is in the middle of a thousand acres. Go to the multitude of big cities to work for weeks at a time, then come home to the country. It's like I am two different people...
 
   / Trip to the Big City #14  
I escaped that area 15 years ago and think that I got out just in time. I was born and grew up in Hayward, bought my first house in San Leandro and worked for 13 years in Oakland. Growing up, we called it street smarts to not be in certain areas after noon, and to avoid other areas no matter what time it was. Over time, those areas grew and grew, then they started popping up in areas that used to be safe, like the Hayward Hills. Then BART connected to Pleasanton, and things started to get bad there too.

I never saw any tent cities, those all happened in the last decade from what I understand.

I went from being a Union Steward pro Democrat that voted for Bill Clinton, that loved the Bay Area, to waking up one day and realizing that life sucked, I was in constant survival mode, I worked as many hours and jobs as I could to save up enough money to escape where I lived twice a year. I just suffered through life of traffic jams, crime and not being able to afford anything until I realized that people in other parts of the country didn't live like that.

Now I love where I live, I never feel the need to escape, and I've pretty much forgotten what stress is like. Of course, we did go to Dallas last week and that was a rude reminder of how horrible city living is, but in less then two hours, we where home and surrounded by trees again.
 
   / Trip to the Big City #15  
I escaped that area 15 years ago and think that I got out just in time. I was born and grew up in Hayward, bought my first house in San Leandro and worked for 13 years in Oakland. Growing up, we called it street smarts to not be in certain areas after noon, and to avoid other areas no matter what time it was. Over time, those areas grew and grew, then they started popping up in areas that used to be safe, like the Hayward Hills. Then BART connected to Pleasanton, and things started to get bad there too.

I never saw any tent cities, those all happened in the last decade from what I understand.

I went from being a Union Steward pro Democrat that voted for Bill Clinton, that loved the Bay Area, to waking up one day and realizing that life sucked, I was in constant survival mode, I worked as many hours and jobs as I could to save up enough money to escape where I lived twice a year. I just suffered through life of traffic jams, crime and not being able to afford anything until I realized that people in other parts of the country didn't live like that.

Now I love where I live, I never feel the need to escape, and I've pretty much forgotten what stress is like. Of course, we did go to Dallas last week and that was a rude reminder of how horrible city living is, but in less then two hours, we where home and surrounded by trees again.

You only live life once...:thumbsup: Might as well make it a good one.
 
   / Trip to the Big City #16  
Funny that there are solar panels sticking up out of the middle of that little tent compound. Wonder if they are running an air conditioner in there?
There are solar hot water showers in the photo as well. It looks like it could be a lot worse but I'm glad I have lived in the country for the last 27 years. I worked from the age of 12 with that as my single purpose. My mission was to own my land by my 30th birthday. My closing date on the land missed that goal by 6 days. The biggest gift to living out here is that I can always throw my heart mind and body into this place. It occupies most of my energies. When I die, I hope the land takes back everything I've done and I suspect it will.
 
   / Trip to the Big City #17  
A few years ago we flew into Seattle. I had read that to get out of town by 3:30pm if I remember correctly. I really did not believe one had to be north of Seattle by 3:30pm but that is what I read and planned to do. The plane flew over I5 around 2:30 or 3:00 and the interstate was empty so I figured what I had read was wrong. We got held up getting a rental car because the employee was trying to up sell us on every single thing. :mad: We got on the road around 3:15 I believe and I5 was clear. I was thinking the 3:30pm deadline was BS...

I was wrong. :shocked:

At 3:30pm, we were still in Seattle, and I5 went from barely used to a parking lot. Twas like someone flicked a switch. :confused3::thumbdown::laughing::laughing::laughing:

...

Yup, that's still the case. I head up there about once a week and you need to be on I-5 at 2-3pm if you want to beat traffic. If you're heading south you need to be on the road by 2pm otherwise you'll catch the Sea-Tac-JBLM-Oly combo.
 
   / Trip to the Big City #18  
Seteppenwolfe - - I've heard so much about the Blue Ridge Mt area. I ride motorcycles - have for 62 years now - just once I would love to visit the Blue Ridge Mt area and ride some of the roads I've only read about. I think we, here in the PNW, have some of the best weather in the country - never too hot, never to cold - never worry about storms, hurricanes, tornados etc BUT from what I've read and the few pictures I've seen - - without a doubt - you have some of the most beautiful country and country roads. I am more than envious.

I ALWAYS make it a point to GO the best I can - in everything. I have no plans for coming back around a second time.
 
   / Trip to the Big City #19  
My childhood was in the suburbs raised by two city people, always wanting to live in the country. Grew up and lived in big cities for work and loved it. I've always tried to make the best of wherever I was but I was still hankering for the mountains and knew I'd end up in the country at some point. I think I'm even happier here having experienced big cities in the past. I don't need to wonder if I missed anything. Now I can still visit the big city, enjoy the restaurants, museums, theaters, and all the action, then go home to my peaceful country life.

OOSIK you should definitely ride the Blue Ridge Parkway!
 
   / Trip to the Big City #20  
I usually enjoy and participate in political argumentation. But I not participating in the Politics forum that exists here. Discussions there get hijacked by a couple of people who constantly engage in an online food fight based on name-calling of others. When you read: "turkey neck just betrayed President Cheeto" .... well, enough said.
Ain't that the truth... sad that a few ruin it for the bunch that want honest discussion with differing opinions. Quite juvenile they are.

I lived in the Bay Area, Berkeley, San Leandro, and worked in the 'city' during college years. Fun then, not now. Moved away from my roots in the suburbs of Seattle about ten years ago. The bedroom communities of Bellevue, Kirkland, Redmond have changed. Used to be a Boeing town. Now it is filled with people that cannot do anything for themselves.

I moved west to Kitsap county where I have land, can fish, shrimp, crab, and maintain a victory garden. Never going back.
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