Trouble with DK45SE HST Transmission

   / Trouble with DK45SE HST Transmission
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#11  
I had a customer with the same problem and it was the brake lever that went into the rear axle. He had no power in high and when you drove the tractor, kicked the H-M-L lever into neutral it would not roll at all. I got under the tractor, disconnected the brake pedal and noticed that the brake axle lever was froze up. I released the lever and drove the tractor again, dropped into neutral and it rolled just like it should. Take a look at that and let me know.

Thanks for the advice I'll check that and let you know.
 
   / Trouble with DK45SE HST Transmission
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#12  
Haven't worked on a tractor HST (yet), but I've done a few riding lawn mower HSTs. In those, the HST has two adjustable plates, one in the transmission pump (engine side) and another on the transmission motor (axle side). One plate is adjusted by the forward/reverse pedal, the other plate is adjusted by range selector. This F/R pedal causes the fluid to change direction of flow. Often these designs will utilize two different overflow values, one for forward and one for reverse. Because of this, many owners will notice a loss of power in one direction, while things seem normal in the other direction. Most often the forward directional value is the first to start failing. I've only seen a handful of cases where the reverse value started failing before, or at the same time, as forward. All those belonged to owners that were from areas with generally very hilly land, which may had contributed to the equalization in failure rates

Usually (90% of the time) most failing valves will fail a 'spring length test' - where you simply measure the springs length (no compression), and if its not long enough, it fails. Only a few failing springs will pass the above test, and have to be compression tested to detect the failure.

Typically, if someone comes it with such a problem, and their machine has 500+ hours on it (less if they have very hilly lots - I ask). I won't even bother to check the springs and just replace all the values outright. Sense you have it apart anyway, right?! An entire set of values would likely be $200-300 (guessing, based on cost for the small ones I use) for your tractor, plus whatever labor is. I always replace them all at once - especially if one had a detectable failure. As it saves the guy another trip to the shop, 50-100 hours later, when the other direction starts failing.

You may want to check if a rebuild kit is available. These would normally include a complete set of overflow/bypass values, d-balls and/or needles, return springs and most importantly a full set of gaskets.

I'm still trouble shooting this problem. I'll keep you updated. Thanks for the help.
 
   / Trouble with DK45SE HST Transmission #13  
Not thinking this is same issue but I'll throw it out there. I recently went through the same issue with my NX4510 relating to power loss. Couldn't use High range at all medium would bog the engine down and low was fine. If I tried to turn and drive in Medium the tractor would stall. Sent it to the dealer with both of us working under the premise that it was the transmission. When the dealer hooked up the tractor to the Kioti Tech via internet they ran several test and couldn't find anything, finally the tech decided to check the engine and found that there was a faulty fuel relay and a bad injector. So when using any hydraulics or combination of functions there would be a loss of power. The only symptom I experienced with the engine was the reduction in RPM's under load which it was thought was the system dead heading somewhere (3rd function, rear remotes, etc..). New fuel injector and relay and its like brand new again.

Good luck
 

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