Alan L.
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I'm pretty sure MF is not the #1 selling brand in terms of compact tractors.
Trying to Make a Good Tractor Choice
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LBrown59
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I have narrowed my choices down to a Kubota L3130 / 3330 (4wd) and JD 5103 (2wd), both are within budget based on local dealer quotes. I guess I'm trying to decide which will better suit my long term needs.
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This is an apples to oranges comparison and tells you nothing while leading to confusion.
How much is the JD with 4 wheel drive compared to the Kubota?
http://consumers.creditnet.com/straighttalk/board/showthread.php?s=&postid=410243#post410243
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This is an apples to oranges comparison and tells you nothing while leading to confusion.
How much is the JD with 4 wheel drive compared to the Kubota?
http://consumers.creditnet.com/straighttalk/board/showthread.php?s=&postid=410243#post410243
RedDog
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<font color="blue">I'm pretty sure MF is not the #1 selling brand in terms of compact tractors. </font>
I can agree with that. But I'm talking about total tractor sales world wide.
The orginal poster stated that MF was a 2nd tier brand. MF is far from being a 2nd tier brand.
In my book Kubota is 2nd tier to MF! /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
I still believe the orginal poster needs 4wd even if he goes with the bigger JD.
RedDog
I can agree with that. But I'm talking about total tractor sales world wide.
The orginal poster stated that MF was a 2nd tier brand. MF is far from being a 2nd tier brand.
In my book Kubota is 2nd tier to MF! /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
I still believe the orginal poster needs 4wd even if he goes with the bigger JD.
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Although it is not easy, I've looked up the highest volume tractor manufacturers world wide on the internet. I did find some interesting tidbits of knowledge, such as the fact that Mahindra made the Willy's Jeep for the U.S. /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
Anyway, the best I can gather, separating the sales pitches from fact, here is how the tractor manufacturers rank in world wide sales:
#1 is Case New Holland
#2 is Kubota
#3 is John Deere
#4 is Mahindra
#5 is Valtra (surprise here!)
#6 is Punjab (another surprise)
From there there is gobs and gobs of companies that claim the number 7 through 10 positions. However, MF is not there in the world wide rankings since 1980.
Oh yeah, I forgot to add this, I found Mahindra's mission statement of sorts to be interesting. Their goal is to produce tractors with the most brute strength and weight. They are "slightly" interested in new designs and changes, but are more interested in pure strength and power. On the other hand, Kubota Corp. expressed an interest in utilizing technology in their tractors not only for creature comforts, but productivity, and stronger tractors through better metal alloys giving the individual owner the ability to decide if they need to add weight or not. Two different ideas on how to accomplish the same objective.
Anyway, the best I can gather, separating the sales pitches from fact, here is how the tractor manufacturers rank in world wide sales:
#1 is Case New Holland
#2 is Kubota
#3 is John Deere
#4 is Mahindra
#5 is Valtra (surprise here!)
#6 is Punjab (another surprise)
From there there is gobs and gobs of companies that claim the number 7 through 10 positions. However, MF is not there in the world wide rankings since 1980.
Oh yeah, I forgot to add this, I found Mahindra's mission statement of sorts to be interesting. Their goal is to produce tractors with the most brute strength and weight. They are "slightly" interested in new designs and changes, but are more interested in pure strength and power. On the other hand, Kubota Corp. expressed an interest in utilizing technology in their tractors not only for creature comforts, but productivity, and stronger tractors through better metal alloys giving the individual owner the ability to decide if they need to add weight or not. Two different ideas on how to accomplish the same objective.
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Dargo,
Your top 4 world wide confirm the top 4 world wide that I have seen reported several times and confirm what I found.
Your top 4 world wide confirm the top 4 world wide that I have seen reported several times and confirm what I found.
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How about that #5 and #6!? /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif I've never heard of either. /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif
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Valtra has been around for a long time, I've heard of them over the years, never seen one, I think from Eastern Europe/Baltics?
I only looked into the top 5. I think there is some question as to who is #5, but I won't argue it, it was last fall/early winter when I really dug into it. The rankings really do muddy up as you go down the food chain.
I only looked into the top 5. I think there is some question as to who is #5, but I won't argue it, it was last fall/early winter when I really dug into it. The rankings really do muddy up as you go down the food chain.
BarryinMN
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I believe Valtra is Swedish, owned by AGCO. They go from 50-60 hp to over 200. My local dealer sells them along with Zetor. I still bought Zetor as it has more weight & lifting capabilities than comparable tractors.
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Guys
Though as always I appreciate the good information you are giving me, the purpose of my original message was not to cause a debate about who the largest tractor manufacturers are in the world. I simply wanted to obtain the owner'e opinion of two tractor's I'm considering. Plus some recommendations on some of the competitors to the ones I've been looking at. I know that all the companies you listed make excellent products worldwide.
I guess what it all boils down to is wether to purchase a 30 - 35 HP / 4WD tractor that will suit my mowing needs now and may marginally meet my round bale movement needs in the future or purchase a 50 HP /2WD tractor that will marginally meet me mowing needs now but will meet my round bale movement needs in the future, plus will meet my haying needs in the future if I should deside to under take that endevor.
Thanks
Though as always I appreciate the good information you are giving me, the purpose of my original message was not to cause a debate about who the largest tractor manufacturers are in the world. I simply wanted to obtain the owner'e opinion of two tractor's I'm considering. Plus some recommendations on some of the competitors to the ones I've been looking at. I know that all the companies you listed make excellent products worldwide.
I guess what it all boils down to is wether to purchase a 30 - 35 HP / 4WD tractor that will suit my mowing needs now and may marginally meet my round bale movement needs in the future or purchase a 50 HP /2WD tractor that will marginally meet me mowing needs now but will meet my round bale movement needs in the future, plus will meet my haying needs in the future if I should deside to under take that endevor.
Thanks
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Oh, but we are having fun! /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif See, I actually learned something. I honestly would have never guessed that Mahindra made the venerable WWII era Willy's Jeep! /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
Sorry to have gotten off of your topic some, but most all threads seem to do that a bit. You know your particular needs better than us. We can only tell you what we know. Besides, who better knows how to spend your money than you. Do what honestly feels best for you. Good luck!
Sorry to have gotten off of your topic some, but most all threads seem to do that a bit. You know your particular needs better than us. We can only tell you what we know. Besides, who better knows how to spend your money than you. Do what honestly feels best for you. Good luck!
