Tubeless Tires and Rim Guard?

[foggy1111]

I'm trying to avoid cal chloride in my tires. I located a shop that will put Rim Guard in my rear tires (3320 43/16.00-20). I'm told the tires will hold about 40 gals each and that would add 850 lbs or so. (cost about $3.00 / gal installed = $240 pr.)

Question: Should I stay with tubeless tires or add tubes with Rim Guard? My plan is to stay tubeless at this point.....but I wonder what others do?

 

[beenthere]

I'd stay tubeless, if it was me.

 

[Storm56]

Another tubeless vote. Rimguard is not corrosive.

 

[Rob-D]

Here's the thing. The other day I was out moving brush, nothing severe but a good enough load. Somehow a branch hit one of my front tire valves and knocked it of the rim to the sound of a load rush of air.

Had my tires been filled with anything it would have immediately spilled all over my field. OK with Rimguard not so good with salt water. Before the vale got popped out I would have agreed with the other two votes here but now I'm not so sure. A tube valve might have just gotten pushed to one side. It could have broken but I think that would have been the less likely scenario.

Anyway I have the same tires as you and I'm spending the extra bucks for wheel weights.

Rob

 

[IslandTractor]

Here's the thing. The other day I was out moving brush, nothing severe but a good enough load. Somehow a branch hit one of my front tire valves and knocked it of the rim to the sound of a load rush of air

Rob

Rather than use tubes why not have the shop weld on some valve stem protectors while filling with Rimguard? Many tractor wheels come with these standard and they work well to prevent exactly this problem. I cannot imagine they would charge any where near as much as for tubes. I also doubt tubes would offer much protection as a stick strong enough to dislodge a valvestem could just as easily tear one apart or split it.

I had Rimguard in rears, tubeless and am a fan.

 

[foggy1111]

Anyway I have the same tires as you and I'm spending the extra bucks for wheel weights.

Rob[/QUOTE

I located a set of used wheel weights on CL....and if I can get the guy to call me back....I am going to add those as well as the Rim Guard. Ballast is good. :thumbsup:

 

[foggy1111]

If you follow this option, make sure the tires are totally dismounted before any welding is done. This will also destroy the factory finish and make it a rust prone area.

Google pyrolosis or look at the following video by Bridgestone Tire: YouTube - ‪Wheels of Fire Training Video‬‎

For rear tires, simply add the Rim Guard unless you plan on being in a lot of rough terrain. The fronts tend to do better with tubes as they often get pealed off the beads.

WOW!!! That video on welding on a rim is pretty spooky! I actually had considered doing this (but woulda asked somebody first). Thanks for the tip.

 

[SPYDERLK]

I cant find it, but I know there was a thread on here .. 05/06 time frame where the poster was having trouble getting up a hill sometimes. It was HST so that was an obvious possibility. It quickly turned into quite a problem. It turned out that his rims were spinning within the tires [R4 as I remember]. The tires had rimguard and it had gotten worked into the bead area and lubricated it quite effectively. There are some other similar instances on the forum but none as extreme. Dont know why I cant find it. :confused2:
larry

 

[IslandTractor]

If you follow this option, make sure the tires are totally dismounted before any welding is done. This will also destroy the factory finish and make it a rust prone area.

Couple of points. First is that welding would not cause an explosion if done either with valve inserts removed while filling with fluid or after filling with 40 gallons of liquid which would be a heat sink assuming welding with valve down. Obviously not something to do under pressure though. Not to dismiss the danger of welding an inflated tire but the demo video shows what happens after more than two minutes of welding on a tire inflated to 90 lbs. That is pretty extreme.

Second point is simply that any decent weld job requires refinishing which would be pretty easy and would certainly protect the wheel from rust.

 

[JD755]

Not to dismiss the danger of welding an inflated tire but the demo video shows what happens after more than two minutes of welding on a tire inflated to 90 lbs. That is pretty extreme.

Watching it a second time I don't think the welding occurred for two minutes. That two minutes was the time for the chemical reaction to get going. The welding was only for a "few" seconds, but didn't say how many. Later in the video it talks about reaction times of several hours.