turbo diesel tractor or not???

[BTI]

Does the TS100 have a Fiat motor in it??

BTI

 

[RobJ]

Does the TS100 have a Fiat motor in it??

BTI

Sorry I really have no idea. Not sure the owner even knows.

 

[bill6]

Doc Bob; 1700 hrs vs 2000 hours, and yes, a major overhaul for a 6 cylinder aircraft engine is quite expensive----aprox $16,000.

My new Mahindra 3215 is turbocharged, which adds 3 or 4 horsepower. But my impression is that the "boost" is set at the Mitsubishi factory to be very conservative, quite low. Surely a low boost setting adds to longevity, but I sort of wish I could hear more of a Whine or Whistle; I love that sound!

 

[dgl24087]

Does the TS100 have a Fiat motor in it??

BTI

That tractor is manufactured in the Basildon plant in the UK, and in the Nebraska Tractor test it lists the engine as New Holland, I found in a book on New Holland tractors and equipment that it is the Ford designed "Genesis" engine. The Fiat engine is actually Iveco, a division of Fiat.

 

[RobJ]

And I think I have the tractor correct...here is a pic...

 

[dgl24087]

And I think I have the tractor correct...here is a pic...

That's a TL100, it would have the Iveco engine. Also, the JD 4230 is a 100 PTO HP tractor, while the TL100 is rated at 98 engine and 85 PTO HP, not exactly an apples to apples comparison. The closest current NH tractor to the 4230 would be the TS115A, 95 PTO HP turbocharged 6 cyl.

 

[Doc_Bob]

Doc Bob; 1700 hrs vs 2000 hours, and yes, a major overhaul for a 6 cylinder aircraft engine is quite expensive----aprox $16,000.

Surely a low boost setting adds to longevity, but I sort of wish I could hear more of a Whine or Whistle; I love that sound!

My TN70A has no whine either that I can hear. But I always wear hearing protection, so it may whine, but I just can't hear it.

So 15% less engine time. I assume the Turbo does 15% more to make it worth it.
Bob

 

[machmeter62]

Okay, out of how many hours total?
Bob

Doc Bob: The 300 hour figure is based on an average 200 hp.+- producing 75% of it's hp, under maximum cruise power setting. When one purchases a used aircraft; these figures are used on the available normal life left in the engine for sales purchases. (1200 hrs for turbos and a non-turbo 1500 hrs.) These # are based on compression tests/cylinder, oil consumption, and etc. These limits are often exceeded if the engines meet the minimum limits. I also agree with "SKY PUP," you can't compare gas to diesel engines, but jet engines suffer from a disease called "CREEP!" The turbine blades suffer from erosion when operating at their maximum limit; thus shortening the life of the engine, and they burn kerosene also! However, I don't know if the metal is the same in a diesel turbine on a tractor? In my opinion only, maximum heat will shorten the life of any engine??

 

[john_bud]

Doc Bob: The 300 hour figure is based on an average 200 hp.+- producing 75% of it's hp, under maximum cruise power setting. When one purchases a used aircraft; these figures are used on the available normal life left in the engine for sales purchases. (1200 hrs for turbos and a non-turbo 1500 hrs.) These # are based on compression tests/cylinder, oil consumption, and etc. These limits are often exceeded if the engines meet the minimum limits. I also agree with "SKY PUP," you can't compare gas to diesel engines, but jet engines suffer from a disease called "CREEP!" The turbine blades suffer from erosion when operating at their maximum limit; thus shortening the life of the engine, and they burn kerosene also! However, I don't know if the metal is the same in a diesel turbine on a tractor? In my opinion only, maximum heat will shorten the life of any engine??

Good information. If it is in the 1200 to 1500hrs, what is the rpm? I'm betting it's a tad bit higher than our tractors normal operating range. But, that's just a feeling -- no aviation experience. I did the math once on how many revolutions an engine should give before a rebuild is needed. It is at least a Billion with a B revolutions. That is if you give it clean air, fresh oil and lots of filtered love.

Oh, you are correct about maximum heat shortening the life of an engine, but plain dirt is probably the biggest killer of our ground engaging equipment's engines.

jb

 

[machmeter62]

Good information. If it is in the 1200 to 1500hrs, what is the rpm? I'm betting it's a tad bit higher than our tractors normal operating range. But, that's just a feeling -- no aviation experience. I did the math once on how many revolutions an engine should give before a rebuild is needed. It is at least a Billion with a B revolutions. That is if you give it clean air, fresh oil and lots of filtered love.

Oh, you are correct about maximum heat shortening the life of an engine, but plain dirt is probably the biggest killer of our ground engaging equipment's engines.

jb

John Bud: The RPM is comparable to CUTS, because the propeller tip speed approaching the speed of sound. You may hear that sound at your local airport with an aircraft on take-off is real close to that sound barrier, with propeller noise louder than normal, because of a bad prop governor, or some other reason. The diameter of the prop is the limiting factor, but some do have geared engines to reduce the RPM of the prop, or increase the HP of the engine. This is often done with homebuilt aircraft. The normal max T.O. RPM is 2600-2700.