TYM 233 Lemon

[honorbound]

Well what next can go wrong with this brand of tractor. My tractor is only 9 months old and I have had to remanufacture the hood latch (to stop the hood from popping open all the time), replace the faulty brake switch, replace faulty tie-rod boots, replace the safety decals that peeled off of the backhoe, and have hydraulic fluid leak out of the filler cap when the backhoe is used. Now the cruise control isnt working and one of the hydraulic hoses for the stabilizers is starting to split. What ever happened to a quality machine because this brand just isnt measuring up. I dont mean to be negative but enough is enough. In 9 short months, for a machine that is not abused I have had way too many failures. I know I am sounding off and I am sorry to do so but maybe if this company sees this post they will change how they do business and start building a better quality machine. Untill then I dont recomend this brand of tractor to anyone. Is it just me or are other people having problems with their machines, or am I the only one that seems to have a lemon.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

Did you buy it from an internet dealer with no physical address?

A tractor, motor home, etc can have ton of nick nacks to work through when new. A $300K MH can take a couple years some report.

Nothing about yours sounds like a "lemon" by the way.

 

[honorbound]

My dealer has been fantastic, the hydraulic issue is ongoing as it does not leak, it spews out the cap when using the backhoe, and minor issues are one thing but all these issues are quite a bit for a new machine. as for the cruise control it looks like it is in the wiring harness. Relays are good, switch is good.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

That is good you have a dealer taking care of you.

I only know of two reasons oil over flows. They are the system is over full and when it expands it comes out or you have air in the system that is not bleeding out at the correct point.

Hopefully others will have the same set up and can tell you if it is a design flaw.

 

[honorbound]

Been down this road. The company already knows it is a design flaw.

 

[Grut]

Honorbound,

Did you get it from a local dealer? Being close to a dealer has its benny's. I had some problems with my T330 Gear TLB --loader control freezing in winter, hydro drip off FEL fitting at frame area, stripped out threads on loader subframe going thru frame into engine..My dealer picked it up fixed everything and then dropped it back off within a week.
If your dealer gets yours all those small things should be corrected while he has it--they really aren't too bad just time consuming on getting straight and something a dealer should be all over to make a happy customer who will recommend others to him.

I love my TYM.

Good Luck
Grut

 

[honorbound]

Dealer is picking it up next week. The cruise seems to be in the wiring harness. The leaking fluid no one knows how to fix, a problem on the machines with the backhoe..design flaw in the unit.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

Dealer is picking it up next week. The cruise seems to be in the wiring harness. The leaking fluid no one knows how to fix, a problem on the machines with the backhoe..design flaw in the unit.

I best someone does.

 

[honorbound]

After hours of troubleshooting and going over the prints with a fine tooth comb, the cruise is working on and off. The problem is in the brake switch, again. The first one failed and now the new one is acting up. The left rear brake light is out, the light came loose and melted the holder and the bulb broke and was shorting out, which might have caused this switch to fail. Need a new rear brake light fixture. The hydraulic problem continues, and I will keep you updated on if the fix works. What they want to do is change the return to a low pressure. The only draw back to this is I will not be able to use a hydraulicly controlled blade for snow removal, only a manual one.
Egad I am starting to get perturbed.

 

[km-ri]

If they put in a pressure reducer won't that impact the BH response? I have the same problem and have reported in numerous posts in this forum as well as to TYM in NC. If they do put a reducer in place why would that cause an issue with a blade control. I am planning on adding a slow blade this year (I have the unit, old meyers plow) I was going to control the tilt using the rear hydraulics, maybe even one of the BH levers. It is a bit of a reach but I wouldn't switch much and it is free (no additional controls or aux. connection).

 

[honorbound]

Not sure how they are going to reduce the pressure. The Whole cover plate in the top is going to be replaced with re-routed lines. The issue of the hydraulic fluid is most definatelt a design flaw. The flaw is in the filler cap itself. look at how the cap sits on the machine. You will see a slot in the cap and on the opposit side the hole for air. When the cap is installed no matter how you do it the slot lines up with the incomming pressure return. The cap has to be turned a full 180 degrees for the issue of the hydraulic fluid to not leak, but no matter how you install it, it always lines up the wron way. It has to be shimmed with gaskets to get the 180 degree turn needed. the only problem with this is that you have very little thread left to tighten after shimming.

 

[Bkjohns]

Well, my 273 bh has never done this, and I gather from other post here that several owners don't have the problem either. So a design flaw is a bit of a stretch. Perhaps poor construction or implementation of the system as designed, but a flaw would be universal I would think. Someone mentioned a possible cause being over filling of the hydro fluid. I know that when I changed my hydro fluid at service, the site window didn't show full for a long time. Perhaps someone did over fill it.
I hope you get it figured out. It would be nice to know what is going on for future reference.
Good luck.

 

[honorbound]

The fluid has not been overfilled as I have drained and filled it myself. The problem is in the design of the cap and the treading on the unit itself and the way the cap lines up with the incomming high pressure fluid.

 

[km-ri]

I agree, I feel it is a design issue. I have removed the cap and monitored the fliud flow and it is routed high in the resivoie and hits the filler cap when it is in place. The fluid comes in under fairly high pressure. I switched the lines and it did help a bit. It seems to me if they made a deeper cover and placed the lines down low it would resolve the issue. Since it was mentioned (overfilling the fluid) what is the proper position for all the hydraulic attachments (bh and fel) when checking the sight gauge? I topped off mine today and had the fel down and bh tucked up and stabilizers up. After a few hours use I noticed a larger than normal dripping of hydraulic fluid. I sure wish this could be resolved it is a pain and made a mess of my driveway today.....

 

[honorbound]

I totally understand how you feel about your driveway. My garage floor has been stained beyond repair because of this issue. The dealer is fantastic, but the company itself leaves a lot to be desired as they do not want to deal with the issue. I shimmed the cap to make sure the slot that leads to the breather hole is 180 degrees from the high pressure return and this has stopped most of the hydraulic fluid from leaking out. Still does not resolve the fact that their poor design ruined my garage floor with all the hydraulic fluid that leaked out. I hope people look real hard at this company and these posts before they think of buying a TYM.

 

[wdchyd]

Honorbound,

I've seen this happen in different kinds of equipment.....Too much velocity/aggitation and return flow in tank is not diverted below tank level (to reduce spitting in tank)......

Sometimes return hose and/or fitting at tank is too small, and no baffle in tank to reduce this.....

Is the reservoir in the transmission or a separate tank..?

 

[honorbound]

Transmission is the reservoir and there is no baffle inside of it. The return is under high pressure and to high in the tank, all of which TYM is aware of as my machine is not the only one that has done this.