Universal CUT Loader 3rd Function *final thoughts and best price*

[CJONE]

Sysop, I do hydraulics for a living and MtnViewRanch's set up is hard to beat. No real advantage to go too large on your valve specs, the disadvantage is larger plumbing and a harder install. Anyway have fun. CJ

 

[Sysop]

CJONE, I'm honestly thinking it would be as well. I noticed how thick and inflexible the hoses on CA's kit were. I don't mind sourcing some stuff myself as long as I know what I'm in for and can plan ahead and have it ready to go when I am. I hate a single process ending up being a half dozen trips to the store. I think the main problem is there are benefits and drawbacks to ANYTHING I want to do and the goal is more to find the proper balance rather than a silver bullet. My purpose for this thread was to get the tidbits of info that either weren't available or were not quite clear to me (I'm sure I'm not the first person who's had curiosity over such things). I preferred CA's kit for the reasons I'd stated before, I preferred Brian's kit due to the obvious reason of price, but wasn't sure exactly what I was getting for the money (I now have a better idea). I also preferred Brian's kit because he's a one man operation just out trying to do the best by folk, that strikes close to home for me and I appreciate and respect that a lot (I'd pay extra for that alone).

MtViewRanch, the only wire ends I would be concerned with would be any sort of specialty connectors used on the valve or handle. If they just have pigtail wires hanging out or take something like a standard spade connector I could handle that, I can cut and splice or add standard connectors as needed (with some sort of diagram to follow). I even have several places I can have ends put on hoses. I never really considered the CA kit to be the best for me, my "serious consideration" was from frustration of not finding comparable "what's included" and "specs" info on other kits, or looking up individual parts and finding this requires that and another thing and by the time it's all said and done I'm approaching the kit costs and have a headache to boot. I like your controller, even though it isn't as high GPM as the CA kit, it easily beats the price on the equivalent EA kit and is far enough above my tractor GPM it quells any concerns there.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

CJONE, I'm honestly thinking it would be as well. I noticed how thick and inflexible the hoses on CA's kit were. I don't mind sourcing some stuff myself as long as I know what I'm in for and can plan ahead and have it ready to go when I am. I hate a single process ending up being a half dozen trips to the store. I think the main problem is there are benefits and drawbacks to ANYTHING I want to do and the goal is more to find the proper balance rather than a silver bullet. My purpose for this thread was to get the tidbits of info that either weren't available or were not quite clear to me (I'm sure I'm not the first person who's had curiosity over such things). I preferred CA's kit for the reasons I'd stated before, I preferred Brian's kit due to the obvious reason of price, but wasn't sure exactly what I was getting for the money (I now have a better idea). I also preferred Brian's kit because he's a one man operation just out trying to do the best by folk, that strikes close to home for me and I appreciate and respect that a lot (I'd pay extra for that alone).

MtViewRanch, the only wire ends I would be concerned with would be any sort of specialty connectors used on the valve or handle. If they just have pigtail wires hanging out or take something like a standard spade connector I could handle that, I can cut and splice or add standard connectors as needed (with some sort of diagram to follow). I even have several places I can have ends put on hoses. I never really considered the CA kit to be the best for me, my "serious consideration" was from frustration of not finding comparable "what's included" and "specs" info on other kits, or looking up individual parts and finding this requires that and another thing and by the time it's all said and done I'm approaching the kit costs and have a headache to boot. I like your controller, even though it isn't as high GPM as the CA kit, it easily beats the price on the equivalent EA kit and is far enough above my tractor GPM it quells any concerns there.

This info is for anyone looking at the thread.

Several things about most of my valve kits, electric or manual. You purchase a kit from me, you get 2 separate shipments. First shipment will be the control grip, the valve, the QDs in the mounting block. And a sample hose to be used for hose measurements.

You get these items mounted how and where YOU want them. You then use the sample hose, routing the hose how YOU feel is best and measure for each hose length. You get me the hose lengths. I get the hoses out to you, normally in 1-2 days. You then have a custom fit kit for your tractor, how you want it.

This takes a bit longer than if you buy a complete kit, this takes some thought on the purchasers end. Everything is not spelled out for you, there are just to many variables to be considered.

Everyone doe not like things done in the same manner, besides it being about impossible for me to have access to all the different makes and models to be able to have a 100% custom fit kit for every tractor out there.

So as of now, this procedure seems to be working out the best for my customers to get their custom fit valve kits.

The wires on the control grip are just striped ends and actually the bare ends are what get used at the valve. So depending on how and where you get your power, those would be the ends that you would need to get.

I probably forgot something, but you get the general idea.

 

[Sysop]

You sir are one awesome individual!

 

[hawkeye08]

Fit Rite would be the one I get if I ever need a 3rd function. I am still in the thinking stage (not yet planning) and I want some rear remotes, but if I am going to be messing the hydraulics, I might just want to go ahead and add the 3rd function also.. in case I want a grapple later....

 

[1648nc]

Sorry to highjack but mtnviewranch if you don't mind would you pm me a price minus hoses if you'll sell like that for a true 3rd function kit (valve, grip and switches, qds and mounting block etc.) If the tractor make matters its a massey 1648. I can make hoses but don't wanna track down all the other stuff. Thanks

 

[Sysop]

Don't be sorry, and feel free to post the price here. I'd be interested as well as I'm sure anyone else reading would be too. I'm sure future readers will understand if prices change later down the road (everything does). I posted this thread publicly because I was sure my questions were things others might wonder about as well, so any sorts of questions relating to anyone's "final thoughts and best price" questions or comments are 100% welcome, so hijacked it is not.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

Sorry to highjack but mtnviewranch if you don't mind would you pm me a price minus hoses if you'll sell like that for a true 3rd function kit (valve, grip and switches, qds and mounting block etc.) If the tractor make matters its a massey 1648. I can make hoses but don't wanna track down all the other stuff. Thanks

Keep in mind that this kit is for an above 10GPM implement pump. I believe that yours is above 12GPM and we don't want to cook the oil.
Control grip with 2 momentary button switches
Valve with subplate
QDs in mounting bracket
Shipping
Total for this kit $570

Same kit, but for 10GPM & smaller systems. $459

Add $108 for hoses and fittings for either kit.


So for others looking for a complete kit shipped to your door.

10GPM and under kit. $567

10GPM and up kit. $676

 

[1648nc]

Thanks! I will definitely keep you in mind. Trying to decide between 3rd function or doing rear remotes first. You don't have any valve ideas for that do you? I don't really wanna pay mf prices for remotes but wanna make it look decent ( wanna hide it under the factory cover) don't wanna just mount a bank of valves on the fender.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

Thanks! I will definitely keep you in mind. Trying to decide between 3rd function or doing rear remotes first. You don't have any valve ideas for that do you? I don't really wanna pay mf prices for remotes but wanna make it look decent ( wanna hide it under the factory cover) don't wanna just mount a bank of valves on the fender.

It really is best to just go with the OEM remotes. Pretty hard if not about impossible to match what they have to offer for the custom fit that they provide.