Up on 2 wheels, need new underwear

JonE · Jul 3, 2000

Ok, I'll buy that. Now on to the next rhetorical question that I just can't resist answering.
I would postulate that one symptom would be that you'd be lookning at sky (in rocket launch position) sitting on your wheely bars. I think they call'em ROPS? How exciting!
Next time, try making a statement like:

"Man without tractor, ain't worth sh*t!"
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_RaT_ · Jul 3, 2000

Wen, if you have 2 wheels on one side in the air, whether in 2WD or 4WD, you will freewheel. The 2 with traction are no longer part of the transmission/engine braking, geared or hydrostatic. If of course, you had the differential locked, that would change things. Rat...

W5FL · Jul 3, 2000

Yeah, I agree. However; I would never expect to get in that position, so would probably not think to put the differential lock on. My differential lock is seperate for the front wheels and the rear wheels. Sure sounds like the wet grass was the real culprit. Lose traction and you lose stability. As my definition goes, you have to have all four wheels on the ground to have any kind of stability - once a wheel comes off the ground you are in a wreck. Now we are talking about the severity of the wreck - from no damage to overturn. I would have thought that additional ballast would have helped, but if the tires don't bite, and that is unfortunately typical of turf tires, then more weight may not help as much as with Ag tires. I guarantee if I am sliding, I am taking a lot of soil with me.

JimBinMI · Jul 3, 2000

MarkC,

I apologize in advance, I cannot resist! /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif

Regarding your question, "If I had too much traction, how would I know?"

The answer is, when you look around you at the painted surfaces of your tractor, They are BLUE!

JimBinMI

We boys and our toys!

Bud · Jul 3, 2000

Paul One heck of a thing to say, but if you had a chain off of that top link to the rear of the mower you would probably would not have been in that position. I'd guess that the linkage that allowes the back of the mower to raise on uneven ground when your cutting got into a perfectly straight position when you started over the edge, and did not buckle when you got further over the edge. Since the mower wheel couldn't raise, the lightest side of the tractor did.

richh · Jul 3, 2000

Wen, what kind of tractor do you have that has a diff. lock for the front end?? How do you control it?? Can I get one for my L4610??? Im gussing this is a BIG tractor???
Rich

W5FL · Jul 4, 2000

richh

It is a M6800. The rear differential lock is used when you need more traction and you are turning. The other differential lock gets both front and rear axles and it is intended for use when going in a straight line. When you lock both axles in 4WD, it has a lot of traction with filled rear Ag tires. It is a really nice tractor. Kubota does not have that feature on any smaller tractors even in the M Series than 68 HP.

PaulB · Jul 4, 2000

Bud - I think you are exactly right about the linkage jamming first, and the whole trainwreck occurring because of that. I can not in my mind figure out how a chain would help though - from my reading on this board I thought that the only use for a chain was to help prevent the mower from getting too low on tractors whose 3 points leak down. If you could explain to me how to hook up a chain that will stop the linkage from binding (it has done so on the flat when I hit a big bump, so I know it is an inherent ptoblem with my tractor/mower combo) I would certainly give it a try.

P.S. - If you are the same Bud who helped me figure out my tight throttle linkage, and that I forgot one of my HST drain plugs at my 50 hour service, thanks again for being a real lifesaver.

MChalkley · Jul 4, 2000

JonE - Hmmm. Yes, I see your point. However, I'd say it was a symptom that I needed to stop working on improving traction for a while, and concentrate my efforts on improving the weight distribution. /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif

Mark

Bud · Jul 4, 2000

Hi Paul I'm the same Bud. I don't know if this is good advice or not. According to a thread on another net, this idea has it's pros and cons. Your mower has a solid bar running from the top link to the rear of your mower, to raise the rear end. If you replace that bar with a chain it would not hold the back of the mower down when you get in a position like you was in. The only holdback to using a chain is, if you hit something solid like a stump, there is nothing to hold the back of the mower from raising to a vertical position. The thread was on http://jplan.com/tractor/index.sht. Read that thread and decide for yourself. (That thread was on within the last week. The thread was "My cutter ain't level.)

Edited by Bud on 7/4/00 03:35 PM.