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One, way too expensive and I'd need multiple implement sides anyway. I have no trouble hitching up anything PTO driven anyway.
To me, almost is like creating a problem and the solving it for a price. In my case I only run an over running adapter on my PTO stub if an implement don't have a built in over running clutch and all of mine do except the shredders.
Kubota's have notoriously weak PTO brakes, especially my M9's, consequently, I run the over running coupler which completely eliminates any inertia driven motion from the implements. IOW, I can disengage an implement at 540 rpm and not be concerned about the inertia of the PTO shaft destroying my clutch brake and replacing a clutch brake in any Kubota is a BIG job as in splitting the tractor to access it. You can see the brake if you take off the back cover, but you cannot reach it. It has to be replaced from the front.
To me, almost is like creating a problem and the solving it for a price. In my case I only run an over running adapter on my PTO stub if an implement don't have a built in over running clutch and all of mine do except the shredders.
Kubota's have notoriously weak PTO brakes, especially my M9's, consequently, I run the over running coupler which completely eliminates any inertia driven motion from the implements. IOW, I can disengage an implement at 540 rpm and not be concerned about the inertia of the PTO shaft destroying my clutch brake and replacing a clutch brake in any Kubota is a BIG job as in splitting the tractor to access it. You can see the brake if you take off the back cover, but you cannot reach it. It has to be replaced from the front.
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I have tried to connect an implement to the tractor PTO for the first time.
I could not get the attachment to slide onto the PTO. I think it is a subtle alignment issue between the female splines of the implement and the male splines of the tractor PTO.
New PTO powered implements, connecting to new tractor PTO splines are always difficult. Once implement and tractor PTO parts are somewhat worn in, mating becomes easier.
Clean mating parts, lubrication and technique are the keys.
Most here like Eureka Fluid Film as PTO lube. I prefer wax chain lube in an aerosol can.
Grease is too thick.
WD-40 burns off. Shaft goes on "OK" cold but can be difficult to disconnect when hot. WD-40 leaves a sticky fish-oil residue which accumulates.
Connect the implement to the tractor via two Lower Link pins and one Top Link pin. Lift implement hydraulically until implement PTO shaft and tractor PTO spines are perfectly level, one with the other.
Turn tractor engine off, disengage PTO so tractor PTO splines can be turned by hand.
Turn male splines by hand until they align with female shaft indents. Slide shaft onto tractor splines. Retract whatever type of detent you have, button or collar, then push the implement shaft the final two inches onto the tractor PTO stub.
If the PTO shaft and tractor splines are NOT perfectly level it is almost impossible to shove implement shaft on to tractor PTO splines.
I am 74 years old. I can mount implement and connect the PTO on my heavier tractor without too much difficulty in five minutes
Hi folks...took a bit of time and fussing but wanted to update you. PTO connection problem was resolved by leveling the implement to the PTO.
Last edited: Apr 23, 2022
I could not get the attachment to slide onto the PTO. I think it is a subtle alignment issue between the female splines of the implement and the male splines of the tractor PTO.
New PTO powered implements, connecting to new tractor PTO splines are always difficult. Once implement and tractor PTO parts are somewhat worn in, mating becomes easier.
Clean mating parts, lubrication and technique are the keys.
Most here like Eureka Fluid Film as PTO lube. I prefer wax chain lube in an aerosol can.
Grease is too thick.
WD-40 burns off. Shaft goes on "OK" cold but can be difficult to disconnect when hot. WD-40 leaves a sticky fish-oil residue which accumulates.
Connect the implement to the tractor via two Lower Link pins and one Top Link pin. Lift implement hydraulically until implement PTO shaft and tractor PTO spines are perfectly level, one with the other.
Turn tractor engine off, disengage PTO so tractor PTO splines can be turned by hand.
Turn male splines by hand until they align with female shaft indents. Slide shaft onto tractor splines. Retract whatever type of detent you have, button or collar, then push the implement shaft the final two inches onto the tractor PTO stub.
If the PTO shaft and tractor splines are NOT perfectly level it is almost impossible to shove implement shaft on to tractor PTO splines.
I am 74 years old. I can mount implement and connect the PTO on my heavier tractor without too much difficulty in five minutes
Hi folks...took a bit of time and fussing but wanted to update you. PTO connection problem was resolved by leveling the implement to the PTO.
Last edited: Apr 23, 2022
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Another trick is to keep the PTO spline clean when it isn't being used. It's easily done with a spline boot, such as this one:
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I agree and it seems to me there is a LOT of that going on now days.
I saw something awhile back, a guy was pushing to something store his lynch pins between changes of implements, I have had one for years... called pockets and they come with every pair of pants I own at no additional cost.
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Actually, both of my M9's have welded on loops on the lift arms expressly put there to store lynch pins on and I use them all the time. Much better than a pocket, besides my frayed pocket liners would deposit them in the grass anyway...lol
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I really cannot see any practical application for the PTO adapters, other than a severe lightning of your wallet. They are an insanely expensive option for something that is a non issue.
Kind of like the hydraulic fitting pressure relieving tool. I just use a brass punch and a hammer and point the fitting away from myself and tap the poppet and the pressure is relieved. Easy peasy and cheap too. I'm forever adding make up hydraulic fluid anyway as every implement change equals some drippage from the SCV's. I do a lot of implement changes, hence I loose a lot of fluid and have to add make up fluid regularly. Keeps the backside of the tractor 'oiled' as well.
Kind of like the hydraulic fitting pressure relieving tool. I just use a brass punch and a hammer and point the fitting away from myself and tap the poppet and the pressure is relieved. Easy peasy and cheap too. I'm forever adding make up hydraulic fluid anyway as every implement change equals some drippage from the SCV's. I do a lot of implement changes, hence I loose a lot of fluid and have to add make up fluid regularly. Keeps the backside of the tractor 'oiled' as well.
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My Kubota dealer has a bunch of them in a bin in the shop. When they add a backhoe to a new unit. the cover goes in a bin. Last time I needed one, they gave me one, no charge as they have numerous ones in the bin. I keep my stubs covered when not in use and I always add some grease in the cover as it aids in installing it easily and coats the splines as well.Another trick is to keep the PTO spline clean when it isn't being used. It's easily done with a spline boot, such as this one:
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I've had any issues installing any pto coupler on my coated with grease, stubs and never had an alignment issue either. Most stubs (least on my tractors) will free rotate 1/4th of a rotation to allow easy mating of the female shaft coupler.
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It's been discussed relatively recently. You may want to read some of the posts there.
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PTO link system
Anyone have any experience with the PTO link system? kind of expensive. Is it worth the money? Other thoughts on attaching PTO attachments to make the job easier.
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Reminds me of the speed strip kit for Ruger .22 pistols, made for those with no mechanical ability.
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I have yet to see any valid reason for having a PTO brake. I find them more problem than benefit. Once destroyed what would be the problem?
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The drag of the clutch pack would make the PTO spin all the time, which would be tricky to hook up PTO shafts to say the least.
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If you want to spend money so freely why not purchase another tractor and leave the attachment on all the time then you don't have to mess with hooking up the attachment????????????????????
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On my M9's I turn off the tractor and then engage the PTO which allows it to turn more than 1/4 turn and then I couple the implement and it don't matter if the implement is on the same plane as the stub, so long as the male end (implement end) is parallel and straight to the stub. Never had issue one hooking up ANY pto shaft, new or not and when not in use, the cover is on the stub and I keep the cover with grease inside always. Keeps the stub from corroding and allows the female coupler (driven end to engage the stub) easily.
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EXACTLY....
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In my case, that is exactly what I did, besides making it easier for this old fart far as hooking up heavy implements, I financed the second tractor and I write not only the principle off but the interest paid on the loan off as well.
Some of my implements are extremely heavy, like my discbine so it stays coupled to a tractor almost all the time.
