Used 4052m or new DK6010

[Ejfern]

MF & Kioti mechanical HST
JD Electronic HST

 

[jeff9366]

7,100 ft elevation, high desert.


DK6010SE HST Cab

Weight​

Weight w/ Ag Tires w/ Cab

4,043.3 lbs. (1,834 kg)

Engine​

Engine Model	3H-TH4C
Engine Gross Power	57.7 hp (43 kW)
Rated Speed	2,600 rpm
No. of Cylinders	3

Displacement

111.4 cu. in. (1,826 cc)

Presumably normally aspirated engine; NON-TURBOCHARGED.

John Deere 4052M​

Weight:

3770 lbs 1710 kg

Engine Detail
Yanmar 4TNV86
turbocharged diesel
4-cylinder
liquid-cooled
Displacement:	127.5 ci 2.1 L
Bore/Stroke:	3.39x3.54 inches 86 x 90 mm
Emissions:	Tier IV
Emission control:	diesel particulate filter (DPF)
Rated Power (EC 97/98):	50.8 hp 37.9 kW
Rated RPM:	2600

Massey Ferguson 2860E​

Weight:

3869 lbs 1754 kg

Engine Detail
Iseki
turbocharged diesel
4-cylinder
liquid-cooled
Displacement:	148.6 ci 2.4 L
Bore/Stroke:	3.43x4.03 inches 87 x 102 mm
Emissions:	Tier IV
Power:	57.3 hp 42.7 kW
Rated RPM:	2600

At 7,100' altitude a tractor with a turbocharged engine will have close to rated horsepower. Fuel consumption for a turbocharged engine should be about 15% more economical, relative to a normally aspirated diesel engine, at 7,100' altitude.

A non-turbo diesel engine will have a power loss relative to rating of 15% to 18% due to altitude. Fuel economy also less efficient.

 

[dusty3030]

Kioti is turbo Jeff not normally aspirated.

 

[5030]

Have you went and physically looked at them?

 

[5030]

I always want a hairdryer (turbo) on a diesel, preferably with charge air cooling (air to air). You get better efficiency and better torque rise as well.

 

[m1garand762]

I owned a kioti. If you want to get parts after it’s 10 years old get a Deere or a kubota

 

[oldnslo]

Might ask dealers if they would swap tires. Be surprised if R1 ag were not an option on all those models. Again my bias against R4 for serious work.

Do any of these have wheel weights of filled tires.

Any of these have cab? Moving snow in winter cab is nice but they require additional maintenance heat , AC, etc. and get hot in the summer.

 

[5030]

I have to say that Kubota is good for parts for older units. Have no issue getting parts or filters or anything for my 2000 and 2002 M9's. Price wise today, I'd wager that Kubota and Deere are running neck and neck, but then everything is expensive today.

 

[jeff9366]

Kioti is turbo Jeff not normally aspirated.

You are probably right. Show me a reference, please.

The Kioti specs were copied directly from Kioti's web site. No turbo is specified.

 

[tacticalturnip]

I question the comparison of JD vs Kioti as equal.

Those are some fighting words, friend.

You're not going to go wrong with any of these machines, honestly.