John, someone on another thread suggested that, if you don't already have one, getting a new TSC credit card would qualify you for 10% off your first credit card purchase. Last week a couple new TSC's in the area had 10% off coupons sent out in fliers in their locales but they were good at any TSC. If we could combine those with the credit card discount we'd be under $700 for the pair of 5' implements. /w3tcompact/icons/clever.gif/w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif