using a chain

   / using a chain #11  
Have seen straps break and is very scary. We always weight the middle of the strap with blankets, coats etc. and tether the ends of the straps to the attachment points with some high strength rope. Knock on wood, haven't had any problems doing it this way for many years.

Dave
 
   / using a chain #12  
Most of the straps I use do have the loops at both ends. Others have slip hooks.
The loads I'm pulling are significantly lighter than the rating of the straps (probably never more than 20%) so I can't confirm, but I'm not seeing stretching.
 
   / using a chain #13  
One way to keep the chain from flying if it did break would be to thread a wire or rope line through the chain with the line passing through links about every foot. A 35' line on a 20' chain would leave enough slack to tie off to the towing vehicle on one end and the towed vehicle on the other. There is no tension on the line, but with slack in the line so if the chain did break, the line would hold both broken ends in check with only a few inches of the lose broken ends to move around, and provide enough time to stop the tow. If the line broke, the energy would be gone from the chain and the chain would keep the line from flying very far. Cheap Insurance.

Using steel cables can be a fright. In 1970, while on active dury as a Naval Officer, it was 1:30 in the morning, I was the Officer of the Deck on a replenishment ship and we were resupplying a 2,200 ton Destroyer with fuel oil. Our ship was a 56,000 ton AOE (fuel, ammo and food supply ship) We were moving at 12 knots about 100' apart. The fuel line was suspended between the two moving ships on a wire rope 1 1/8" in diameter. Without warning, and in a matter of seconds, the Destroyer took off at a 30 degree angle at 12 knots away from us. My ship rolled about 5 degrees until the span wire parted and we rolled back upright. Fortunately, that wire did not hit anyone, or it would have been fatal. It sounded like a gun going off when it let go. The fuel hose pulled out before it could be released, and we gave the Destroyer a black oil bath from a 3" hose at 40 psi.

I'd rather use an oversized chain with a safety rope or wire through it.

Just my thoughts on this matter. If someone sees a problem in that theory please say so.
 
   / using a chain #14  
I had a chain break once. Whipped back with great force. If it had hit anyone, it would surely have been tragic. So I don't take any chances anymore. I make sure that the chain is secured and dampened.

Rich
 
   / using a chain #15  
My experience has been that people generally use a chain that is too small. I do like the suggestions that have been given by the TBNers.
 
   / using a chain #16  
I hate to rain on your parade guys but I saw a chain snap back from a truck trying to pull start a drop-dead gorgeous antique Cadillac in Hershey PA. The chain literally wiped out most of the forward lamps on the antique. The guy who owned the car also owned a Cadillac dealership in Akron, Ohio and laughed the incident off.

The rest of the spectators that were near the car when it happened didn't think is was so funny however.

Be careful with chains. I use some 20 to 40 feet with a pallet puller when unloading semi trucks. I use the chains attached to a pallet puller and carefully drag the pallets one by one to the back of the trucks before I gently lift them off using my pallet forks. I drape a blanket over the section of chain closest to me and I am always vigilant and move as slow as possible to eliminate kinetic energy biting me when I least expect.
 
   / using a chain #17  
When I was on the volunteer fire department, a truck pulling a mobile home got stuck in soft dirt, so the movers decided to pull it out with a tandem axle, loaded dump truck, and they had over 100' feet of chain. The chain broke, snapped back with enough force to strike a spark from rocks which ignited the dry grass, and we had a pretty good sized grass fire to fight; burned off about 10 acres, but we did save the truck and mobile home from any damage.
 
   / using a chain #18  
A number of years ago, I hired the young men who mowed my lawn to clean out my front flowerbeds. There were stumps from some shrubs in there. They used an axe until the handle broke. I was gone, and when I came back they had about a 30' heavy chain wrapped around the stump of a shrub, and the other end wrapped around the trailer hitch ball on their Jeep Cherokee on the street. Tried to jerk it out; chain broke, whipped back narrowly missing one guy but it did manage to break out the rear window of the Cherokee and dent up the tailgate pretty good. Probably would have killed the guy standing there.

Steve
 
   / using a chain #19  
Jerking on anything with a chain is not a good idea as previously stated. The old firehose on the chain is the best soloution I know of to control a breaking chain, again as previously stated.

Another thought on this is maximum drawbar pull would be nice to know for a given tractor then you could figure the max pull without jerking and know how sturdy of a chain to use more safely. For example if the maximum drawbar pull for your tractor is 4,000 lbs, get a chain well above that limit. And before someone picks on this post, I realize that maximum pull will vary somewhat depending on tires, conditions, etc. But if we had the Nebraska drawbar HP.........

Also don't trust the hooks to not come loose on the chain, use a clevis or screw locking link to keep the chain together. Don't ask me how I know this /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif

Ben
 
   / using a chain #20  
Pulling truck and car frames for a living, the best idea we used was to throw a heavy blanket over the chain. Its not the chain itself that does most most of the damage, its whats hooked on the end of the chain that does the damage, hooks, other chains, chain hooks. The frame machine we use has more tha 30,000 lbs of pulling power and when something comes loose, breaks, or tears, the blankets always prevents damage from happening elseware.

arkydog
 

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