Using a trailer for a creek crossing?????

   / Using a trailer for a creek crossing????? #21  
Yea, impossible to calculate without knowing the diameter and wall thickness of the tubes.

That trailer....being a trailer.....is supported by axles. It isnt clear spanning the whole 30' you would need.

I agree, pipe isnt an efficient shape for a beam. But that doesnt mean it wont work either. Its just the end result is many more pounds of steel to accomplish the same thing that fewer pounds in an I or C shape will do.

Steel vs wood.......When you start talking about larger spans and special order lumber or laminated beams.....steel is gonna be cheaper.

Shorter spans that you could use standard dimensional lumber on....wood is probably cheaper and easier to work with.

But a 30' span.....no middle support.....and wanting something to possibly hold a mini-ex......thats above and beyond what I would want to use 2x12's for.....regardless of how wide you stack them. Simply not enough depth.

For reference....a W12x26 beam will span 30', support 4000# with a ~3.5 to 1 safety factor, and deflect a mere 5/8"
At 26# per ft....each beam is gonna weigh 780 pounds.
Steel pricing is regional.....and I havent priced steel since the new thing with china.....but new beams from my local place used to be around 65 cents per pound. That would put each beam at ~$500.

Regardless of wood or steel, proper lateral bracing, footings, decking, etc is all critical. But you'd probably have way more than $1000 in a pair of wood beams that would support 4000# each clear spanning 30'
 
   / Using a trailer for a creek crossing????? #22  
Oh, here is the last "pole bridge" we replaced as it was being dissembled. This was replaced with 32ft long I beam structure. No more poles bridges!
 

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   / Using a trailer for a creek crossing????? #25  
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Trailer bed is not an option. I don't have a way to get it to the site. And the last TT that tried to get up the hill had to back down after 3 attempts to get up. The architect speced 4, 12" round poles. 2 on either side of the bridge mated together with 1/2 inch rebar drilled through both poles. Either 4x or doubled up 2x lumber for the deck. I told him I wanted it to hold 10,000# minimum. I am going to check out the local steel fabricator and see what king of price I get on 2 I beams for the span.
 
   / Using a trailer for a creek crossing????? #27  
I've been around a lot of architects and engineers thru the years and they never "underbuild" anything. To cover their butts(as they should) everything is overbuilt. Overbuilding also puts more money in their pocket as well as the pockets of the contractor. Then comes along Davis-Bacon and really greases the ol' palm.

Not ragging on Architects or Engineers here, I'm glad they overbuild but usually nothing the common man can afford.
 
   / Using a trailer for a creek crossing????? #28  
I've been around a lot of architects and engineers thru the years and they never "underbuild" anything. To cover their butts(as they should) everything is overbuilt. Overbuilding also puts more money in their pocket as well as the pockets of the contractor. Then comes along Davis-Bacon and really greases the ol' palm.

Not ragging on Architects or Engineers here, I'm glad they overbuild but usually nothing the common man can afford.

Except for that Miami bridge.
 
   / Using a trailer for a creek crossing????? #30  
Most local fabricators or steel suppliers won't spec the beam for you. Too much liability.
 

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