Vegetation killer?

[snal]

I found a recipe for homemade vegetation killer online...vinegar, salt, and dish soap. Has anyone tried this?
I have a large area that has been taken over by briars, vines, and poison ivy, there are very mature trees within the area, is it safe for the trees if I spray near or around them?
Thanks!

 

[snal]

I found a recipe for homemade vegetation killer online...vinegar, salt, and dish soap. Has anyone tried this?
I have a large area that has been taken over by briars, vines, and poison ivy, there are very mature trees within the area, is it safe for the trees if I spray near or around them?
Thanks!

 

[RalphVa]

I've used plain vinegar. It works. The salt and soap would serve as "stickers" and enhancers to make it work better. Vinegar may lower the pH of the soil if you use very much of it. That may be the only effect on the trees. Could spread some lime to counteract this.

Ralph

 

[RalphVa]

I've used plain vinegar. It works. The salt and soap would serve as "stickers" and enhancers to make it work better. Vinegar may lower the pH of the soil if you use very much of it. That may be the only effect on the trees. Could spread some lime to counteract this.

Ralph

 

[PineRidge]

<font color="blue"> I have a large area that has been taken over by briars, vines, and poison ivy, there are very mature trees within the area, is it safe for the trees if I spray near or around them? </font>

I have successfully killed poison ivy growing on trees with Round Up. The herbicide needs to be sprayed on the leaves to be absorbed, so you can spray the ivy, brambles and anything else growing without hitting the leaves of the tree itself and killing it as well.

If you're in the market for Round Up I can also furnish a link for Round Up Quick Pro with 73.3% glyphosate that will make 73 gallons of herbicide for $100.00 That's like $1.36 per gallon, very inexpensive for concentrated Round Up and it also contains a surfactant. BT Growers

 

[PineRidge]

<font color="blue"> I have a large area that has been taken over by briars, vines, and poison ivy, there are very mature trees within the area, is it safe for the trees if I spray near or around them? </font>

I have successfully killed poison ivy growing on trees with Round Up. The herbicide needs to be sprayed on the leaves to be absorbed, so you can spray the ivy, brambles and anything else growing without hitting the leaves of the tree itself and killing it as well.

If you're in the market for Round Up I can also furnish a link for Round Up Quick Pro with 73.3% glyphosate that will make 73 gallons of herbicide for $100.00 That's like $1.36 per gallon, very inexpensive for concentrated Round Up and it also contains a surfactant. BT Growers

 

[snal]

I've tried Round Up (not sure if it was the same as the link) and recently used Ortho Ground Clear concentrate. The Round up has always disappointed me, the Ortho seems to work better, and works fine on the near half acre that I swept with the weed eater first, then sprayed. That area was regrowing FAST due to recent rains.
The bramble area is thickly populated with the vines and briars...shoulder high, I've cut about half of this area down to spray...the remainder has so much vine that it's a PITA to try to cut with the weed eater and gator blade.
Once I have it killed off, or otherwise downed, I plan run an old mower over it, and continue spraying.
The vinegar just sounds more environmentally friendly for large quantity use.
Alot of the area will eventually be filled in with several feet of dirt, to level the low areas off, but I need to keep the growth down till then. Some of the mature trees are being taken over by the vines and poison ivy.

Snal~

 

[snal]

I've tried Round Up (not sure if it was the same as the link) and recently used Ortho Ground Clear concentrate. The Round up has always disappointed me, the Ortho seems to work better, and works fine on the near half acre that I swept with the weed eater first, then sprayed. That area was regrowing FAST due to recent rains.
The bramble area is thickly populated with the vines and briars...shoulder high, I've cut about half of this area down to spray...the remainder has so much vine that it's a PITA to try to cut with the weed eater and gator blade.
Once I have it killed off, or otherwise downed, I plan run an old mower over it, and continue spraying.
The vinegar just sounds more environmentally friendly for large quantity use.
Alot of the area will eventually be filled in with several feet of dirt, to level the low areas off, but I need to keep the growth down till then. Some of the mature trees are being taken over by the vines and poison ivy.

Snal~

 

[1bush2hog]

While I have no experience with using vinegar/salt/soap, I can tell you that poison ivy/oak will react better to herbicides if you leave the vegetation intact prior to spraying. The leaves carry the herbicide to the roots. If you cut the leaves off with the weed eater before you spray you are reducing the surface area of the plant that is needed to effectively carry the herbicide to the roots.

Spray first then after a few weeks, spray again, and then you should be ready to mow. I have also read that roundup will work better on poison oak/ivy if applied in the fall when the sap is flowing more towards the roots.

Most of the spray type herbicides will become inert if sprayed on dirt. Just keep the drift off of the tree leaves.

I would be hesitant to use salt around tree roots -

 

[1bush2hog]

While I have no experience with using vinegar/salt/soap, I can tell you that poison ivy/oak will react better to herbicides if you leave the vegetation intact prior to spraying. The leaves carry the herbicide to the roots. If you cut the leaves off with the weed eater before you spray you are reducing the surface area of the plant that is needed to effectively carry the herbicide to the roots.

Spray first then after a few weeks, spray again, and then you should be ready to mow. I have also read that roundup will work better on poison oak/ivy if applied in the fall when the sap is flowing more towards the roots.

Most of the spray type herbicides will become inert if sprayed on dirt. Just keep the drift off of the tree leaves.

I would be hesitant to use salt around tree roots -

 

[kossetx]

Mike, Thanks for the link. I've been buying the quick pro a TSC for about 13.00 for 5 gallon packages, or about 2X the cost.

I know roundup is absorbed through leaves, but I've always been afraid to spray it on a tree trunk, especially the 73% quick pro. Do you spray it onto the trunk with no problems to the trees. My tree canopies are trimed high so there is little chance for contact with leaves, but I've still been afraid to spray the trunk anyway. I usually pull the vine off and then spray it. I have some poison oak vines on trees that are 4" across, the vines that is. Whish I can get rid of that stuff.

 

[kossetx]

Mike, Thanks for the link. I've been buying the quick pro a TSC for about 13.00 for 5 gallon packages, or about 2X the cost.

I know roundup is absorbed through leaves, but I've always been afraid to spray it on a tree trunk, especially the 73% quick pro. Do you spray it onto the trunk with no problems to the trees. My tree canopies are trimed high so there is little chance for contact with leaves, but I've still been afraid to spray the trunk anyway. I usually pull the vine off and then spray it. I have some poison oak vines on trees that are 4" across, the vines that is. Whish I can get rid of that stuff.

 

[wushaw]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Mike, Thanks for the link. I've been buying the quick pro a TSC for about 13.00 for 5 gallon packages, or about 2X the cost.

I know roundup is absorbed through leaves, but I've always been afraid to spray it on a tree trunk, especially the 73% quick pro. Do you spray it onto the trunk with no problems to the trees. My tree canopies are trimed high so there is little chance for contact with leaves, but I've still been afraid to spray the trunk anyway. I usually pull the vine off and then spray it. I have some poison oak vines on trees that are 4" across, the vines that is. Whish I can get rid of that stuff. )</font>

The only thing you can do with the big vines is cut them at the base if the tree and let it start again with leaves and spray the tar out of it and let the soon to be drying up and falling down vines fall on their own.
I have found spraying the vine to be a waste of $$$$ product.

 

[wushaw]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Mike, Thanks for the link. I've been buying the quick pro a TSC for about 13.00 for 5 gallon packages, or about 2X the cost.

I know roundup is absorbed through leaves, but I've always been afraid to spray it on a tree trunk, especially the 73% quick pro. Do you spray it onto the trunk with no problems to the trees. My tree canopies are trimed high so there is little chance for contact with leaves, but I've still been afraid to spray the trunk anyway. I usually pull the vine off and then spray it. I have some poison oak vines on trees that are 4" across, the vines that is. Whish I can get rid of that stuff. )</font>

The only thing you can do with the big vines is cut them at the base if the tree and let it start again with leaves and spray the tar out of it and let the soon to be drying up and falling down vines fall on their own.
I have found spraying the vine to be a waste of $$$$ product.

 

[1bush2hog]

only thing you can do with the big vines is cut them at the base if the tree and let it start again with leaves and spray the tar out of it

I have cut some of the larger diameter vines on my property at the base of the trees and used a "cut stump" style treatment on the exposed cut ends of the vines -

If you have poison ivy this large (4-5in dia) you can usually not spray enough of the leaves to kill the plant. Cutting the vine at the base and then treating is alot more effective. The remaining debris in the tree tops will die and fall out with a couple of years.

 

[1bush2hog]

only thing you can do with the big vines is cut them at the base if the tree and let it start again with leaves and spray the tar out of it

I have cut some of the larger diameter vines on my property at the base of the trees and used a "cut stump" style treatment on the exposed cut ends of the vines -

If you have poison ivy this large (4-5in dia) you can usually not spray enough of the leaves to kill the plant. Cutting the vine at the base and then treating is alot more effective. The remaining debris in the tree tops will die and fall out with a couple of years.

 

[PineRidge]

I have always sprayed Round-Up on the bark of the trees that have poison ivy vining up the tree. The leaves of the ivy absorb the herbicide and I've not had a tree damaged as of yet.

For the large wild grape vines I use a chainsaw and cut the vine at the ground, then I give the root/stub a good drink of Round-Up to kill them.

Use a looooooong rope tied to the vines to pull them from the trees. A word of caution here. Make sure that your rope is long enough to get you out of the way in case a branch snaps or a dead tree comes down.

I had a friend get hurt pretty good when a dead tree came down on him and his John Deere while he was skidding a tree out of the woods.

 

[PineRidge]

I have always sprayed Round-Up on the bark of the trees that have poison ivy vining up the tree. The leaves of the ivy absorb the herbicide and I've not had a tree damaged as of yet.

For the large wild grape vines I use a chainsaw and cut the vine at the ground, then I give the root/stub a good drink of Round-Up to kill them.

Use a looooooong rope tied to the vines to pull them from the trees. A word of caution here. Make sure that your rope is long enough to get you out of the way in case a branch snaps or a dead tree comes down.

I had a friend get hurt pretty good when a dead tree came down on him and his John Deere while he was skidding a tree out of the woods.

 

[RonMar]

I have used apple vinegar for spot weed control and it worked OK. I have not tried it with salt/soap, but that might help keep it in contact with the leaves longer to upset the chemical balance of the plant so it would probably make it more effective. One thing that is a definite must for this type of homemade spray. It must be used on bright sunny and warm days, the hotter the better. The times I used it on cooler days were not nearly as effective. The other comercially available sprays such as roundup are a little more forgiving of this but they too work better when the temp is warm. As for tree bark, I have never had any problems and I don't think you would as long as the chemical is not able to reach the heartwood/core of the tree.

 

[RonMar]

I have used apple vinegar for spot weed control and it worked OK. I have not tried it with salt/soap, but that might help keep it in contact with the leaves longer to upset the chemical balance of the plant so it would probably make it more effective. One thing that is a definite must for this type of homemade spray. It must be used on bright sunny and warm days, the hotter the better. The times I used it on cooler days were not nearly as effective. The other comercially available sprays such as roundup are a little more forgiving of this but they too work better when the temp is warm. As for tree bark, I have never had any problems and I don't think you would as long as the chemical is not able to reach the heartwood/core of the tree.