Vehicle Registration Fees

   / Vehicle Registration Fees #11  
Here in NY its not as bad, they base the fees on the weight of the car or truck. The smaller the car the less you pay. I think I pay about $48.00 for two years on my Porsche 911 and just paid $63.00 for the Jeep GC for two years. Now my trailer is $45.00 per year, but I don't use it in the winter so I can pro-rate it and save some, as all registrations for trailers start on Jan. 1. But like Muhammad stated we pay in so many other way its not funny!
 
   / Vehicle Registration Fees #12  
But like Muhammad stated we pay in so many other way its not funny!


This has troubled me for some time now. The guys here I think represent pretty much how America really is. You've got the wacko politicians, corporate america, and numbskull hollywood that paint the world as such and such. I think for the most part the country is represented by guys on this forum. My question is what do you guys think of all these taxes, fees, etc. that are going on in this country? I mean between FICA, federal, state, sales, property, use, tolls, fuel, etc. etc. taxes it has been said that middle class america pays 50-70% of their income to taxes in one form or another. Most of the taxes that are paid are only considered by state and federal with all the other taxes being left out. Figure most states are 5-10% sales tax, property tax, fuel tax, all the fees ie. taxes, we pay and that adds up to about another 15-20% of your income. Govt. just seems to keep getting bigger and bigger and when the states, county, cities, feds, etc. get short of cash they just keep coming up with new ways to tax us and get more money. Is there ever an end in sight? Now with free prescriptions on the horizon, the 911 big govt. aftermath, local cities and states spending beyond their budgets where does it end? If the middle class of America is already paying 50-70% of their income in taxes where is there to go? But all you see is more taxes, higher values, etc. etc. It just seems like a vicious cycle with no end in sight.
 
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#13  
I guess the answer to "where will it end", Richard, is to suggest that you take a look at that "other" socialist "paradise" over in Euope. Sweden.
I've seen several reports of the taxes on self-employed people exceeded 110% of their annual income. But hey ... you get what you pay for ... just what we're destined for. A government that tells you where you can live, takes your kids away if someone whispers that you looked at them cross-eyed, regulates you from cradle to grave ... but guarantees you a certain lifestyle from cradle to grave.
And guess who the best-off people in the country are? Why, no less than the "civil servants".
Who says the communists lost?

pete
 
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#14  
and if we consider it a user fee ... it makes sense that the vehicles that are (or could be) harder on the roads would pay more.
But, if you look at what I .. and others ... have mentioned ... it's quite obviously not a "use tax" or a user fee, or destined for keeping the roads in the terrible shape they are.
It's, pure and simplke, a way to grab your money knowing that you cannot or will not do without the vehicle(s).
If I thought for one minute that the money would actually be used for roads in this state, I'd not complain. But since I know it'll be going to buy votes in Dtroit .... well, I'm GREATLY upset.

pete
 
   / Vehicle Registration Fees #15  
Seems to me the user fees in Michigan comes from the 37 or so cents we pay in taxes on each gallon of gas. The bigger and sportier cars and trucks use more gasoline and that seems like a much fairer way to look at things.
Prior to the last registration fee schedule change in Michigan the fees were based on only the weight of the vehicle, again a much fairer system in my opinion.
And for all the money paid in we still suffer with the potholes, the broken road surfaces, and the unsafe bridges. I did hear that the politicians are making their normal promises to make the roads safer but then again that big limo probably rides slightly better than my old Ford F150.
Bill
 

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