Walmart and my town...

   / Walmart and my town... #11  
I HATE Walmart. What is really sad is seeing the completely dead downtowns of small towns all across the country. No local stores that used to make up downtown.

I don't like to shop there, as I have not found their prices all that good, and they mostly sell crap that breaks the first time you use it. Not saying I never go in there, but only if they are the only ones that have what I need. I don't go there to save money.

Alan L., TX
 
   / Walmart and my town... #12  
Yep, DrDan, it's a real dilemma. I hate to see the smaller stores go out of business, but on the other hand, I don't have unlimited income, so I do a great deal of shopping at Wal-mart. Some say they have cheaper, lower quality stuff, and sometimes that's true, but they also have a lot of the same name brand stuff that the other stores sell, and at lower prices. I was recently in a CompUSA store and looked for a USB cable ($24.95), but didn't buy it. Two days later in Wal-mart, there's the same brand cable for $17.95. Of course, CompUSA isn't exactly a little neighborhood store either, but why should I pay an extra $7 for the same product (no telling how high it would be in a neighborhood store).

And maybe someday, I'll get a bad product or service at Wal-mart, but so far, the only times I've ever taken anything back defective, they promptly replaced it or refunded my money.

Of course, as someone else mentioned, if you need information . . . better go somewhere else. My experience has been that it's a waste of time to ask a Wal-mart employee for information about any of their products; can't recall ever asking one who knew as much as I did about an item./w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif

The only complaint I've had at Wal-mart has been the occasional long wait in line for a cashier. Our local K-mart Super Center has solved that by letting you do your own scanning and checkout. Not enough people want to do that, so I never have to wait in line./w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif

Bird
 
   / Walmart and my town... #13  
My local Super Walmart has 32 checkouts and only 5-6 of them are ever open, even at Christmas time. The checkers live in their own timezone where everything takes 2 to 3 times longer to do anything

I HATE WALMART.


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   / Walmart and my town... #14  
Bird...how does that self-scanning work? How does it prevent people from putting things directly into bags without scanning them?

BTW: In my area, the walmarts are all well staffed and the competition (even before walmart came) was understaffed. I agree though, I wouldn't go there seeking advice, they don't pay people enough to give advice on anything /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif
 
   / Walmart and my town... #15  
I love Walmart and Walmart stock!!
 
   / Walmart and my town... #16  
<font color=blue>How does it prevent people from putting things directly into bags without scanning them?</font color=blue>

Beats me, ejb. According to the local newspaper when this first started, they have a way (of course they didn't say what it was and may have just said that to discourage thefts). They have 4 self-serve checkout stations and one employee there to watch and help when you don't know how to do it. As you scan each item, it posts the amount on the screen and an audible sound calls out the price. And for reasons unknown, it occasionally says, "Place the last item in the bag" but you just ignore that and continue if you didn't place it in a grocery sack (like 20# bags of dog food).

A very common and habitual and much complained about practice at the local K-mart is to ring up items for higher prices than those posted (a lot of people in this area won't trade with K-mart for that reason). But oddly enough, I've never had that happen when I was scanning the items myself.

Bird
 
   / Walmart and my town...
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LOL Hillbilly

Did ya hear about the tornado that went through Charleston? Took out the Governors Mansion but luckily the rest of the trailer park was fine.

Did ya hear about the West Virginian that carpeted the bathroom? Liked it so well he ran it all the way into the house.

Ok enough of that... What you aren't looking at is the fact that you are paying for the improvements for the roads, sewage system, etc. that feeds Walmart and it doesn't come back in tax dollars. Something that the little businesses used to pay dearly for.

THE TAX BASE WILL INCREASE

Another arguement from the municipal politicians, and another one that is not true!

First, the community has to pay to service the land Wal-Mart will occupy. Roads, traffic signals, water, sewer, policing costs and fire fighting services all have to be paid for by the taxpayers.

Wal-Mart will pay taxes, but they won't pay enough taxes to offset the tax losses as business after business closes in the community. Empty stores and Malls don't pay taxes.

The tax burden must then shift to homeowners to maintain the services the community needs, or those services have to be reduced.



I heard Walmart has a preacher now. Can marry ya for $49.95 while ya get the tires changed.

Did ya hear about the guy in the changing room screaming for more toilet paper? LOL LOL LOL

DrDan
 
   / Walmart and my town... #18  
EJB, I will agree with you on that! They are the absolute best at taking things back. No hassles and no fuss.

Bird,
I don't know what the answer is. I'm glad I'm not in small business like that. Hoss and some others had some good ideas though. I believe also in the trickle down theory like Dr. Dan. It's what kept small towns alive for decades. That's gone now and that's what saddens me more than anything. The way I grew up in a small town and I'm sure yourself isn't there anymore. It truly is corporate america anymore. I would have liked for my kids to be able to grow up like that is all.


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   / Walmart and my town... #19  
Obviously, there's a lot of depth to this issue. I do a fair bit of shopping at WalMart for a number of the reasons mentioned here.

However, I also buy quite a bit of stuff from other places. Here's an example: Earlier this week, I decided it would make sense to make up some custom hold-down chains for the new EarthForce, and I figured it would be a good idea to go ahead and get them, especially since the tractor will travel as far in its trip home from SC as it will in the next 5 years put together, in all likelihood. What I needed was 4 8' lengths of 3/8" G70 chain with a grab hook on one end and a slip hook with a safety catch on the other. I also decided I needed a lever type spring binder for each chain. I've mentioned numerous times that I hate Chinese junk (I don't mind Chinese good stuff at all - it just seems to be hard to find...), so I went in search of quality samples of the above items. Now, WalMart doesn't carry the world's largest supply of chain, hooks, and binders, but if they had what I wanted, it wouldn't have been of a quality I'd have considered buying, so that was out. Unfortunately, Southern States (a local farm supply chain) only had junk, too. Ditto with half a dozen other places I tried. The end result: I had to order it all from Labonville in NH. The point I'm trying to make with all this is that there's room for local stores if they don't try to compete on the same terms with WallyWorld. If they insist on trying to sell the same stuff (especially if it's junk), they're doomed. As has been said several times here, they can't compete at that level. On the other hand, there's plenty of room, I think, for local stores to sell admittedly smaller-audience items of high quality at welcome higher margins. The trouble is that most small business owners seem to lack the insight to adapt to the situation - they just moan and gripe about their plight and operate under the assumption that they're doomed which, unfortunately, is a self-fulfilling prophecy. I see a few examples of those who have been able to handle the situation well, though. There's a local shop that sold run-of-the-mill food items, almost an upscale c-store, in a small town a few miles from my home. When WallyWorld came in a mile down the road, it became obvious that their old way of doing business wouldn't fly. Instead of withering on the vine, though, they started selling specialty foods - cheeses, microbrews, wines, etc. Since then they've opened up a second store, and they're doing far better in just a few years than they did in almost 15 years of business before the WallyWorld era. Sometimes gloom-and-doom are self-manufactured. Success almost always is.

MarkC
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   / Walmart and my town... #20  
Mark,

<font color=blue>if they don't try to compete on the same terms </font color=blue>

Excellent point, I have bought from a locally family owned and operated hardware store for the last 30 years. They have survived the onslaught from Pay N PaK, Home Depot, Eagle etc. The help is knowledgable and helpfull.

Their stock has been developed over 50 years and they have what you want and they sell quality. Lowe's probably has three time the stock and they still don't have what you want.
Al
 

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