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EddieWalker
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I heard the author of the pickel story on an interview on the radio talking about this story. He said vlasic makes so much money on their other products they sell at walmart that they are forced to sell the gallon jars at a loss to keep their other business. Is it really bad for us consumers that vlasic isn't making money on this product when they are doing well on everything else? Is it our job to make sure the suppliers are makeing a profit? Vlasic isn't losing money overall, and is in fact doing quite well as a company. They aren't complaining either, it's just the press who's making story out of this.
Snapper wants to seel $500 walk behind mowers and is pulling their brand from walmart. They think they can do better on their own. I think it's suicide, but what do I know. I do know that if I want a quality walk behind mower, I'm going to Lowes or Home Depot and buying one with a honda engine for $300.
I'm a fan of walmart, but realize that if I want top quality, I need to shop someplace else.
Eddie
Snapper wants to seel $500 walk behind mowers and is pulling their brand from walmart. They think they can do better on their own. I think it's suicide, but what do I know. I do know that if I want a quality walk behind mower, I'm going to Lowes or Home Depot and buying one with a honda engine for $300.
I'm a fan of walmart, but realize that if I want top quality, I need to shop someplace else.
Eddie
riptides
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Ahh the ol' WalMart note....
Let's see here ....
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I'm a fan of walmart, but realize that if I want top quality, I need to shop someplace else.)</font>
Based on the pickle, I would go there to get a gallon jug, Quality of brand comes to mind.
In a pickle for a lawn mower.... well I just don't quanitify those articles brands as durable. Indeed the article goes to great lengths to give the reader opinion on disposable products.
And to me - disposable products have a price point. Mine may be different than yours. In other words my 300 dollar lawnmower may be the curb queen because it will not start, yours may be in the shop, or you may be fixing it.
The product price point may have a lot to do with how disposable it becomes to an individual.
-Mike Z. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Let's see here ....
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I'm a fan of walmart, but realize that if I want top quality, I need to shop someplace else.)</font>
Based on the pickle, I would go there to get a gallon jug, Quality of brand comes to mind.
In a pickle for a lawn mower.... well I just don't quanitify those articles brands as durable. Indeed the article goes to great lengths to give the reader opinion on disposable products.
And to me - disposable products have a price point. Mine may be different than yours. In other words my 300 dollar lawnmower may be the curb queen because it will not start, yours may be in the shop, or you may be fixing it.
The product price point may have a lot to do with how disposable it becomes to an individual.
-Mike Z. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
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Ahh. The Walmart bashing never ends. The media especially loves it as they love to stir controversy. "They are destroying all our jobs" they scream. But just go to Sears, Pennys, Kohls, Best Buy, you name it store, even your local merchants and look at the labels and tags and then tell me how much you find made in the good ol USA. They all do it without apology. Look at the labels inside your own clothing, shoes, caps, household furnishings, tools, etc. and see how much of your stuff is imported.
In fact, it raises our standard of living. The imports force domestic producers to keep their prices low. That means whether we buy domestic or imported we have more buying power. The more buying power we have the higher our standard of living. "But look at all the lost jobs" they say. True there are jobs lost. But the unemployment rate is at or less than 5%. That ain't bad. And there are jobs to be had if someone wants to work.
In fact, it raises our standard of living. The imports force domestic producers to keep their prices low. That means whether we buy domestic or imported we have more buying power. The more buying power we have the higher our standard of living. "But look at all the lost jobs" they say. True there are jobs lost. But the unemployment rate is at or less than 5%. That ain't bad. And there are jobs to be had if someone wants to work.
CarlGlas
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Wouldn't it be nice if petroleum based fuels, natural gas and electricty worked that way too? /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
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Your logic is based on the assumption that wages will remain the same as the cost of products or services go down, however in my occupation (manufacturing) we have watched wages go down dramatically in the last four years. So our standard of living has been lowered not raised. I hope when you retire your pension is safe or I will see you at Wal-Mart greeting me at the door. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
Jagmandave
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Manufacturing wages have gone down dramatically?
Not here in Kansas, although they haven't risen all that quickly either. Maybe a little in relation to the COLA, but I don't think so.......
I run a manufacturing plant, and I pay more now for hourly wages than I did 5 years ago, not to mention the associated higher employer costs too.......
Might be different in certain industries, but none was specified......
I think Mr. Weir of Snapper did a very brave thing, tossing away 20% of his national sales (this year, could have been much more as time went along) but I agree with his reasoning. His choices seemed to be to cheapen his product and make far less money per unit sold (in fact losing money on some % of units) vs. making a fair profit on a smaller number of units, but having lower overall manufacturing cost, the ability to keep his quality control under control (vs. offshore manufacturing) and probably keep his warranty costs in line - plus the added benefit of keeping the dealers who make up 80% of his business happy and profitable too. sounds like a good business decision for him and his company..........
Not here in Kansas, although they haven't risen all that quickly either. Maybe a little in relation to the COLA, but I don't think so.......
I run a manufacturing plant, and I pay more now for hourly wages than I did 5 years ago, not to mention the associated higher employer costs too.......
Might be different in certain industries, but none was specified......
I think Mr. Weir of Snapper did a very brave thing, tossing away 20% of his national sales (this year, could have been much more as time went along) but I agree with his reasoning. His choices seemed to be to cheapen his product and make far less money per unit sold (in fact losing money on some % of units) vs. making a fair profit on a smaller number of units, but having lower overall manufacturing cost, the ability to keep his quality control under control (vs. offshore manufacturing) and probably keep his warranty costs in line - plus the added benefit of keeping the dealers who make up 80% of his business happy and profitable too. sounds like a good business decision for him and his company..........
CarlGlas
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Wages have gone down or they haven't been adjusted ?
If my employer lowered my wages, I'd be looking for a new employer.
(of course if they were any lower, I'd be paying them) /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
If my employer lowered my wages, I'd be looking for a new employer.
(of course if they were any lower, I'd be paying them) /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif