warming up in the garage and fumes question

[LouNY]

I like the exhaust hose idea.
As far as not warming up the hydraulics, incorrect.
You might not feel any warmth but if you put a temperature probe monitoring the hydraulic temperature you would see that it has risen.
It will not warm up as much as the engine coolant but it will warm a bit.
To my knowledge all the scut cut and most of the smaller ag tractors are live open center hydraulics,
that means that as soon as the engine turns over so does the hydraulic pump the simple effort of pumping that oil will warm it some.
Also when I warm up my power shuttle (for my comfort) I usually release the parking brake ground the bucket and or implement,
place my range gear box in neutral the main transmission in 4th and engage the power shuttle fwd or rev so that all that is turning and churning the oil.
Have to release the parking brake on mine or the shuttle will not engage, the PUMA and NH will engage with the parking brake on.
The JD's with the closed center hydraulics will warmup even more.
Also I cover my grill openings, even roading the tractor with a load it does not over heat when the ambient is below 35F.

 

[fried1765]

Wow. No clue. I figured there must be combustion gasses but people burn them inside around here all day every day. I suppose people die from CO2 all day and every day too!

Everybody n this area is out of kerosene!

Thx, i'm glad i asked!

If you research kerosene heater asphyxiation you will find the supporting data.

 

[pokey1416]

Place a cheap box fan behind tractor on exhaust side and blow fumes out the opened overhead door. Turn off when done or put on a digital timer to run for 30 minutes and then shutoff.

 

[oosik]

No tractors but normal highway vehicles. Those few times when I wanted to warm the vehicle up in the garage. Open the big main door - open the back "person door" on the back wall of the garage. Air flow thru the garage kept hazardous fumes down at a safe level. If you want more - put a portable fan at the "person door" and direct the flow out the door.

 

[bigtiller]

I back the tractor into the garage and leave the front about a foot away from the door. This way, most of the exhaust goes straight out the opened door when starting the engine. My garage is heated to 42 degrees so warm-up is just the few seconds it takes to get outside, followed by low RPMs and slow moves for a few minutes.

 

[JohnDeereJoey]

I operate stuff ever so slowly after just having started cold all the time. Lowest gear, slowest possible speed, the slightest touch on hydraulic levers. You know, common sense approach.

Same here.

Although I'm wondering if I should change my approach with the new tractor (JD 4066R). JD says start and warm up at half throttle before use.

 

[Diggin It]

O.T. but is CO2 lighter or heavier then air?

Would vents along the floor or near the ceiling better protect from CO2?

We're talking CO, not CO2.

CO is about the same weight as air and will mix easily. It does not readily settle or rise. You need something that will blow it away, or suck it to evacuate it.

 

[4570Man]

And if I every buy a house again there will NOT NOT NOT be living space above the garage for so many reasons.

What are the many reasons? I have a house like that and it’s never once been a problem. The garage is fully drywall covered and the living space above is fully drywall covered. There’s no order leakage. The door into the house is the source of any odor leaks and it’s an exterior grade weather stripped door. You’d be better off with a detached garage to put equipment in. A detached garage unless you have an unsightly covered walk has the obvious downside of you can’t give into the house without getting wet in the rain.

 

[Deepdrop]

OK, maybe I exaggerated, but in theory, I don't like the idea of having fumes from the garage enter the house from below. I'm sure that some houses have the garage sealed off better, but it makes me uncomfortable to run engines in the garage with our kitchen above. I've read that carbon monoxide molecules can pass through drywall.
I also believe that the garage is one of the areas where fires are more likely to start, and having living space above it feels somewhat risky.
The garage is cold, and this causes the living space floor above the garage to be really cold. This is probably my biggest objection. I'll bet that newer homes have better insulation, but ultimately, the garage is cold and the room above it is affected by this.
Finally, my knees are begging me for a one level home. I don't want to have to walk up and down to the garage.

 

[4570Man]

The easy solution is to install a carbon monoxide detector and don’t run engines in the garage for longer than required for parking. An attached garage still has pretty much the same carbon monoxide and fire risk anyway rather there’s space directly above it or not.