murphy1244
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Now that is pretty smart! Thanks for the tip.
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Now that is pretty smart! Thanks for the tip.
sixdogs
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Last summer I had the chance to weigh some implements I had and was shocked to learn the weights were not at all what I thought. A chisel plow I thought was 1,000 lbs turned out to be only 700. My landscape rake was way more than I thought and a loader I thought was 1,200 was almost 1,800. Maybe time for a scale.
the old grind
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Catman, I've been following since recognizing that our tractors and tillers are so similar. My toughest performance test was tilling a 30' x 30' patch of lawn in heavy for the area soil into a 'garden' for a Sis. (her way, of course 
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I set the skids high up, maybe skipping a bolt hole or so, and my 60" KK (weight unknown) went nearly full depth on the first (creeping) pass. Went crosswise to that once, then a third pass like the first. There was no grass or weed matter to rake off by then and I suspect we got an honest 6" of plantable depth. There's a routine at the end of a row. I declutch, disengage PTO, lower rpm, raise 3PH, turn, lower, raise rpm, clutch, engage PTO and take off. ... Why I mention this is the bigger laugh you'd get watching me do them in order than my trying to look clever writing it down. :laughing: (lotta shakin' & noise, sometimes)
An interesting sideline to that task was when I complained for the sake of my gadget about splitting nearly fist-sized granite rocks and asked onlookers to grab a few between passes and she chewed my six for days about 'rocks' as if she'd wanted more brought in. Of course to get even I neglected to mention for a season or two that when hubby's pulling weeds (w/seeds set) in the fall they shouldn't be tossed into the middle to be tilled in later. (his way )
Anyway, what I came away with there and since is: - that on a first pass one needn't work too deep, easier yet if the area is flat or you're good on the draft control, - that on any subsequent pass, the tiller might surge & bounce within play in the pins etc as on the first, - that HST is the trick, you creep forward as the tiller works to depth under whatever weight it does have, - and what was most important to me that 540 RPM just didn't work for me on any job yet.
That 'shakin & noise' I get when lifting the tiller w/o disengaging first shouldn't also be there when it's working the ground and the PTO shaft isn't at any odd angle. I suggest you consider reducing rpm as much as say 10% by trial & error, but based again on our tractor & tiller sizes being so similar. My NH's rpm for 540 PTO speed is 2450, but tiller works best around 2100-2200. There'll be a setting where things just seem to run their smoothest, and I'll bet you find it in a jif.
Glad to have you with us. t o g
) I set the skids high up, maybe skipping a bolt hole or so, and my 60" KK (weight unknown) went nearly full depth on the first (creeping) pass. Went crosswise to that once, then a third pass like the first. There was no grass or weed matter to rake off by then and I suspect we got an honest 6" of plantable depth. There's a routine at the end of a row. I declutch, disengage PTO, lower rpm, raise 3PH, turn, lower, raise rpm, clutch, engage PTO and take off. ... Why I mention this is the bigger laugh you'd get watching me do them in order than my trying to look clever writing it down. :laughing: (lotta shakin' & noise, sometimes)
An interesting sideline to that task was when I complained for the sake of my gadget about splitting nearly fist-sized granite rocks and asked onlookers to grab a few between passes and she chewed my six for days about 'rocks' as if she'd wanted more brought in. Of course to get even I neglected to mention for a season or two that when hubby's pulling weeds (w/seeds set) in the fall they shouldn't be tossed into the middle to be tilled in later.
(his way )Anyway, what I came away with there and since is: - that on a first pass one needn't work too deep, easier yet if the area is flat or you're good on the draft control, - that on any subsequent pass, the tiller might surge & bounce within play in the pins etc as on the first, - that HST is the trick, you creep forward as the tiller works to depth under whatever weight it does have, - and what was most important to me that 540 RPM just didn't work for me on any job yet.
That 'shakin & noise' I get when lifting the tiller w/o disengaging first shouldn't also be there when it's working the ground and the PTO shaft isn't at any odd angle. I suggest you consider reducing rpm as much as say 10% by trial & error, but based again on our tractor & tiller sizes being so similar. My NH's rpm for 540 PTO speed is 2450, but tiller works best around 2100-2200. There'll be a setting where things just seem to run their smoothest, and I'll bet you find it in a jif.
Glad to have you with us. t o g
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I use tillers a lot and can be very abusive with them. Careful, but doing things like tilling hard clay ground in August. A better way to use a tiller and get more satisfactory results is to first break the ground a little with a simple set of cultivators. I use some serious ones, but light ones work too and just need to rip the ground a little. Then I till a couple of times over that. Blades last far longer that way and things don't get beat to death. Nothing happens in just one pass.
Tilling is in straight lines with no turns or you'll break tines.
Tilling is in straight lines with no turns or you'll break tines.
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Really? 600 miles each way?
powerscol
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I wondered about that myself, but decided to not say anything.
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I dont know - the rest of us are working on tire chains and plowing snow. I'm a little jealous of you staying warm.:laughing::thumbsup: I did notice in the last picture you have the skids on the highest setting. If I may suggest, put them on the lowest and use the 3pt for depth control. Then you will really know how it works,
Happy Tilling and Merry Christmas
of you staying warm.:laughing::thumbsup: I did notice in the last picture you have the skids on the highest setting. If I may suggest, put them on the lowest and use the 3pt for depth control. Then you will really know how it works,Happy Tilling and Merry Christmas
I dont know - the rest of us are working on tire chains and plowing snow. I'm a little jealous
Happy Tilling and Merry Christmas
I'm just using it for weed control right now, really don't have time for a garden, just to busy. But I do plan on using it for a garden so thanks for the info on setting the depth. Why does your tiller have springs that hold the back plate down and mine does not.
Oh and by the way You have snow because Santa has a sleigh, Merry Christmas to you to.:grinch:
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