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WARNING IF YOU DON"T WANT A SCRAP THEN LEAVE THIS NOW!!!!!!!!!!

First off, I hate to do this but I am mad at the unfair garbage being thrown around here. We have some real winners here who purport to be ubiased individuals but who are LIARS.

On a previous thread a man asked an honest question about our loaders and immed. was given un-honest opinion. Trentay came off as just some guy who was giving his honest opinion with no bias as to who he was or who he now does business with.

We object to this line of garbage but very typical of the group out of Washington and their affiliates, associates or supporters in the NorthWest and West. To come out and act as if you have no vested interest in what you recommend is deceitful and really shows what type of business you operate.

People on the east coast and other locations who think we are just on the attack should reconsider. We have been put on the defensive by malicious individuals who have pretended to be unbiased, simple, un-related people who are just here to help out. Most people here are good people but there are a few who need to be exposed for who and what they really are.

Trentay sent an email to my father on April 7, 2002 @ 12:44 AM. Is trentay the unbiased person he says? He wrote this in one of his post on a previous thread

"Sorry to have offended you, I really did not even think about your relationship with the Idaho 3g loader when I responded."

Do you believe him? What is his association now? I say that these guys are all in bed together and try to pretend they have no vested interest in their positions. Well, I have more emails from many people and will gladly post them as the need arise. Lets get ugly if that is what you few want or lets stop this whole thing and talk tractors. Disagreement is fine but the intentional misrepresentation of ones interests, positions and intent is WRONG.

Here is who Trent Taylor is and what he told us. Is he honest about not knowing who makes the Idaho 3g? You decide for your self.

Bob,

I saw the update on your site tonight and the loader looks great. I also saw that you added the information that I gave regarding the loader issue I read on the Yahoo Yanmar Board. I thought that I would give it to you so you could read it for yourself. I seem to remember looking at a site belonging to Coldwater Tractor in Hoquiam, WA, but I cannot find their site again. When I looked at it I believe they were selling the same loader that EFC is selling. I have seen other people selling the same loader and they must be buying them from someone manufacturing them in WA. Buck says that he is the manufacturer but I am not sure about this and I think that the people selling them are protecting their source so others cannot buy direct, either that or Buck is actually making them and selling them to others, however one guy told me that he is buying them direct and not from Buck (that would Ernie in Mollala, OR). Anyway here it is, I have nothin! g against Buck, when I talked to him he was very nice and informative, however I don't want one of his loaders!!! It seems to me that you are putting out a much better product for nearly the same money.

If you are interested, here is the link to the Yahoo Yanmar Message Board:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Yanmar_Tractors/

Trent.

From: "duckfan24" <duckfan24_1999@y...>
Date: Thu Apr 4, 2002 8:20 am
Subject: 1401d FEL and Q on post hole digger


Hello everyone, I'm back...... I haven't been here in a while, but
now that the weather is getting better in my neck of the woods I'm
using my tractor more. First of all I would like to give an update on
my FEL. Several months ago I put a FEL on my 1401D. I bought this and
had it installed by Cold Water Tractor in Hoquiam, WA. I paid $1500
at the time and haven't regretted it one bit. It is a very stout unit
and has served me well and believe me I have used it. I only have one
suggestion (Cold Water if you're reading this is for you): the top of
the bucket needs to be reinforced. As the arms of the FEL push the
bucket into a pile, they try to fold the bucket in half. Now this is
a bit of an exaggeration but that is exactly what it is trying to do
and physics backs me up. Consequently the top of my bucket has a ~ in
it and it causes the bucket operation to be sticky. My fix will be to
weld a piece! of angle on to the top of the bucket for added strength.
Anyway, great bucket/FEL I would definately buy one from them again.
Good people, good product.



To the rest of you. You do a great job and we really find the info here to be about 99% informative, constructive and useful.
 
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Just for the record:
I sell used tractors with new loaders. These loaders happen to work great with one ram on the bucket. They are made in So. Calif. and not in Washington. My response to the original request was based on my experience. If one wants a 2 ram bucket then fine. I happen to like Fords, Yanmars, and Acuras. Everyone is at liberty to try what they want. Also, I have never bought anything from EFC, nor ever talked with Buck or anyone else at EFC. I buy my tractors. loaders, and all impliments from So. Calif. and pick them up myself.
Jim
Jimstractors@hotmail.com
 
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Hi Jim,

None of this was directed at you. I don't feel you have in any way mis-represented youself. I don't want to fight but will set the record straight when need be. I appreciate your post. You seem to be a man who just stated his position fair and balanced. I appreciate that.

Thanks,
Robert
 
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Boy oh Boy! Am I glad to get back on the forum! As the moderator, I guess I might as well set out some policy here.

I represent the interests of the club members - not of any dealer. And as much as I personally dislike these dealer squabbles, it sure gives potential buyers a good look at the personalities involved. Club members are perfectly capable of drawing their own conclusions about how that translates into business ethics. So as long as it is entertaining and educational I won't try to stop it....yet. What I will do is to ask that you guys keep it civil. When you square off, try to do so on technical merit and without the personal attacks. I don't care if you feel justified or not.....just drop the personal insults.

You boys got into this scrap; you can figure how to get out of it. My aim is to keep it clean.
 
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Thanks Roger,
It's about time we ALL dropped the insults I think.

Jerry
 
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I resent that remark and just who is Roger Scotty anyway? And what is with that, 2 first names? I had a great Uncle, Billy Bob, who once told me not to trust folks with 2 first names. And how did he get to be a moderator anyway, did we vote on that? I demand my rights as a non-paying member of this board!!! By the way, I recommend buying all machines from Birky Tractors of Maryland.
 
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Soooo, where is Birky Tractors in MD????
 
   / Warning!!!!!! Lets have some fun #9  
Your uncle was right. Thats why - just like him - we southerners tend to have two middle names and no first name at all.....Beats me how it happened, you'd have to ask my parents. I was a non-voting member of my family at the time.
 
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ALL IS FORGIVEN!!!!! How could I stay angry with you anyway. As a token of my friendship I invite you to fly out to Maryland, using some of you moderator profits, and teach me how to use my tractor.
bw
ps, better bring at least one implement with you.
 

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