was lookin / now waiting for delivery

texastomtom · Aug 8, 2004

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It showed up !!!!!!!!
Just the tractor / no fel or other yet... but since yesterday i've already put about 8 hours on it. Would have been more but I had in town work to do also.....

So far I'm pretty impressed.......
I forgot to bring the digital camera home,,, maybe next week........

I do have a question, this is first time I've had a speedometer...

How fast should the tractor pull a 7' disc....
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Or maybe I should ask " how fast should I try to pull it "
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Thanks !!!!!

tomtom

texastomtom · Aug 8, 2004

A late THANKS to you.

I did find that thread... I had missed it early on in the way I was searching.

tomtom

KiotiJohn · Aug 8, 2004

( I do have a question, this is first time I've had a speedometer...
How fast should the tractor pull a 7' disc....
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I think you mean the first time you're had a tachometer. Your tractor doesn't have a speedometer.
Set your RPM to whatever will keep you moving and pulling well without pulling down the engine. Try starting out around 1800-2000 and see if that works OK.
For the first 50 hours, try to avoid running at full power to allow all the new parts to seat well. Warm the tractor for at least 5 minutes before starting to use it, and remember that cold hydro fluid can be damaged, so let it warm up before using your implements a lot.
Most of the tasks you'll need to do won't require the tractor to be at it's rated speed, marked on the tach with a mark, and maybe ways 540 (PTO RPM). After the break in, you'll change the fluids and filters (or the dealer will), and then you can use the tractor more to it's fullest. John

texastomtom · Aug 8, 2004

Actually I did mean speedometer. This tractor actually has one. I was just curious what ground speed is 'normal' for running a disc.

I have been running the tach well below the rated pto speed of 2400. It has plenty of power for what I have been doing so far and as I am not running the shredder right now I dont need pto speed.

I always let things warm up a bit,,, but have not been waiting a full 5 mintues. I will heed your advice on that. Actually it probably takes me close to 5 minutes from start to the physical location I am using things at. I will watch to be sure I give it more nearly 5 minutes. I never thought about the fluid needing to warm up really. I did notice something in the options pages for the model about a hydo fluid warmer for cold weather - so what you are saying certainly makes sense.

I also have been waiting at least two mintues after I park before I shut down the engine. Letting the engine cool gently - it is a turbo model. I know on airplanes with turbo's I always give 2 minutes for gentle cool down of the engines.

Thanks for your advice !!!!!!!!!

tomtom
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KiotiJohn · Aug 8, 2004

( Actually I did mean speedometer. This tractor actually has one. I was just curious what ground speed is 'normal' for running a disc.)
Oops, my bad. I didn't know they were putting a speedometer on it. Seems a little superfluous to me, as the tractor and implement will tell you if you're going too fast.
One can pull a disk pretty much as fast as one wants to as long as it continues to cut in and do the intended job.
I suspect that going very fast will not allow the weight of the disk to cut in though, so generally you'd be looking at a slow pace. You may have to add weight to the disks if the ground is virgin and pretty firm.
Sounds like a great tractor, and I hope you're getting a lot of enjoyment in working with it. John

RICHARDG · Aug 8, 2004

You are buying the name,,,,they are made in china,,,,they are not the john deeres of old,,,every 1,000,,you will spend 500 for name,,,,to bad,,, thingy

texastomtom · Aug 9, 2004

They imply they are built in the Augusta plant.

This 4000 twenty series doesn't even have the yanmar engine. It is a John Deere engine 4 cyl.

Of course it may still be built in Japan.

I always prefer to buy american made,, but I'm sure at least part if not all is made overseas.

Somewhere I saw that deere had added mucho square feet to the augusta plant for the purpose of compact tractor manufacturing.... Maybe they meant 'assembly' or even just distribution.

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just a curious note,,, I looked the the percentage of my chevy pickup that was 'american made'. It was within 2 % of how much of a Honda civic is 'american made'. Nothing to do with tractors...... but interesting....

texastomtom · Aug 9, 2004

The speedometer is in the small single line digital display... it is the hobbs meter , speedometer, diagnotic display.

I guess they added it since the computer aparently knows the speed for 'cruise control' purposes...

The whole cruise control thing seemed odd to me... but with the hydro tranny it is actually pretty nice.

I'm not sure a mechanical lever like the kubota wouldn't have been just as nice.... but this works tooo.

texastomtom · Aug 9, 2004

another question

i'm gettin 3500 trade for my massey 230
does that sound reasonable ?

its 2700 hours +
about 20 years old
pretty rough,,, some bent sheet metal
rust
most of the electrical doesn't work
leaky ehaust pipe
bad paint
some rust
i've fixed most of what was previously a totally unusable electrical system.... start with the screwdriver no more !
a little leaky but not to bad
have to add power steering fluid a lot
front axel mount point bushing very loose / when you turn the steering wheel the axel moves first then the wheels start to turn.

one thing though the old massey seems to be 'heavier built if you just look at the rear axel etc - and the overall steel involved....

one thing though the old sucker is simple,,, even I can fix most things on it - but if i spent enough to make it 'right' i'd probably have a good part of the cost of a new hopefully reliable machine invested in it...

thanks for listening to my ramlings...