Tires Water in tires?

newtractor · Apr 25, 2005

Just wondering if i need to fill my tractor tires or not? Any body have any advice out there concerning proper applications for doing so? and how much if needed? My main usage at this time is land grading and bush hogging with occasional disking.

Keith_B_ · Apr 25, 2005

I would definitely load the tires, using rimguard, windshield washer solution, or something similar. You do not want to use plain water, as it freezes. It will really make a traction difference for chores like disking and bush hogging.

newtractor · Apr 25, 2005

Keith, Is this something that the dealer should do or can i do it?

Varmintmist · Apr 25, 2005

You can do it. Get a 10 dollar adapter from a tractor store like TSC made for liquid filling of tires, a stem puller, then you need gravity or a pump to put the liqiud in the tire.

I have a 3510 and it took about 45 gal of ww fluid to fill to above the rim per tire.

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kenmac · Apr 25, 2005

I just used water& 1 gal. antifreeze for ea. tire.If you drain water in the winter ,you won't need antifreeze. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

hudr · Apr 25, 2005

I loaded the rear tires on my 5005. Did it myself in an afternoon using the valve stem adapter and a gravity feed system. It was a completely different tractor! no more see-saw using the loader, little to no wheel spin backing up with a roll of hay on the loader. Lots more stable on slopes.
Only one thing... when you do spin... it will dig holes quick!
I put about 50 gallons in each tire w/ a gallon of antifreeze each. Hasn't frozen yet here in East Texas.

Keith_B · Apr 26, 2005

( Keith, Is this something that the dealer should do or can i do it? )

You can do it yourself, with available kits and windshield washer fluid, as mentioned by others.

OR your dealer could do it for you for free when purchasing a new tractor. The 4110 I have priced included loading the tires if I wanted them loaded. The only dealer I found that charged for this service is the nearby John Deere dealer.

wiam · Apr 26, 2005

My 65004WD was loaded with Rim Gaurd at the dealer as part of the deal. We never even discussed it.

Will

YanmarFever · Apr 26, 2005

When ever we sell a tractor / loader combo, We always load up the tires,we dont even ask the customer,we just do it anyway for safetys sake.
Ernie

Keith_B_ · Apr 26, 2005

( When ever we sell a tractor / loader combo, We always load up the tires,we dont even ask the customer,we just do it anyway for safetys sake.
Ernie )

That's a good way to approach the sale, IMO. This will lead to fewer customer complaints following purchases.

Tim_in_IA · Apr 26, 2005

As long as you're not loading them with CC that's good. Otherwise I'd say they should have a say in a purchase that $$. I almost put CC in my tires but then I looked at an old M in the corner of my shop and how there was hardly anything left of the valves due to corrosion and I said forget it!

Still debating whether I go the WW route or just leave em. I don't like the idea of making a chemical pond everytime I get a flat. I do see the merits though, dont get me wrong.

Maine_Polack · Apr 26, 2005

I also have Rimgard in my rears on my 6500. Added 700+ lbs per tire. lots of weight -good for somethings- not so good for others. Anything that I want to do around the house will have to be when things are quite dry, or frozen.

The upside is when there is 2-3 feet of snow in the woods I think I will be able to get away without useing chains. Also the weight makes it quite stable when winching logs. I also have the rears set out some.

I have, in the past, loaded rears with CC. I hooked up the plumbing -all from the hardware store- mixed solution in a garbage can and pumped it in with a sump-type pump that I use in my basement. It worked fine. But then I have also seen the results of the CC rusting the rims out, which is why I made the rimgard part of my purchase deal.

wiam · Apr 26, 2005

If your woods are very flat then you might be ok in snow. I have a 6500 4WD with Rim Gaurd in rears. I run heavy ring chains on it on snow and ice. I know there places I could not go in my woods without chains. Having said that, I did put the chains on later and took them of earlier than on my two wheel drive with loaded tires. ( I love my 6500 4WD)

Will

newtractor · Apr 26, 2005

Tim, since i'm new to tractors and the site i'm still learning some of the lingo so what is CC?

newtractor · Apr 27, 2005

Also since i'm not using a FEL is it still a good idea to load tire for the traction advantage?

hudr · Apr 27, 2005

newtractor: Calcium Chloride. It is used because it gives quite a heavy solution that also will not freeze. It is corrosive. I don't have a problem using it in tube type tires, but I don't know if I would put in a tubeless tire. I have seen wheels eat plumb up by the stuff. Of course, these wheels were also 40 to 50 years old. How long do you plan to keep the tractor? /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

newtractor · Apr 27, 2005

Thanks Hudr i'm still learning.

Keith_B_ · Apr 27, 2005

( Also since i'm not using a FEL is it still a good idea to load tire for the traction advantage? )

It is definitely a good idea to load the tires. The added traction will help you more often than most people realize. Even pulling a box blade is easier with the extra weight.

Maine_Polack · Apr 27, 2005

Hey Wiam, where are you located? Do you twitch wood with your tractor? What else do you use it for? Just noisy.

Are you rear tires set out any? Before the dealer loaded mineI asked him to set mine out to the next location. They looked too close to the fenders to use chains comfortably. This will make it a little more stable, but then I have the extra width to contend with. Everything is a trade off.

wiam · Apr 27, 2005

Maine_Polack
In winter I use it to skid wood and feed round bales. Also for pushing back snow banks when the truck won't. I am in Barnet, VT. The dealer moved the rear tires all the way out before delivered it. I have moved the left one in one notch as it was too much on the windrow when square baling. When I first saw it at the dealer, I thought the same thing. "how am I going to put chains on those?"
I also have spread manure, round baled, loaded quite a few logs, tedded, raked and mowed hay. I haven't had it on the 10' wood rotary mower yet.

Will