Deadman
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If you water trees too fast, all the water just "runs off", so water them slow so it soaks in and gets deep into the ground near them. All the extra water isn't doing any good if its not by the tree.
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curly
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Wow, those are a lot cheaper than the 100 gal ones at TSC...I would never fill it up unless I got some pallet forks and used it from the tractor. Hmmmmm, this merits another implement. Man I love this forum....justification at it's finest :thumbsup:
missingstexas
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Curly- I Like the way you think! :thumbsup:
I expect the speed would depend on how many trees need watering and how dry it is. If I used a 3/4" hose gravity fed, it would take 2 weeks to water the trees and would be time to start over again. A small berm around the trees will concentrate the water so I am not watering a large area. Could get into my fishing time. My 150 small oak and pecan trees will soon be able to make it on their own so I will no longer have any dogs in this fight. Have plenty of natural oaks but the squirrels don't plant them where I want them.
JohninCT
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If you buy from the site linked you've got to buy in bulk. The few tanks on that site I checked required you to buy 8 to 10 of them. I suppose you could buy the lot and sell the others yourself on CL.
As to your original question... I have a tank I purchased at TSC. It has a 3/4" FNPT fitting at the bottom. To connect a hose, get a 3/4" nipple, threaded ball valve, and 3/4" MNTP X Male hose end adaptor. If it doesn't drain fast enough for you, the vent is probably too small... just remove the fill cover.
dangier_VA
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Picture of my water hauling equipment. Storage tanks are in the background. Considering installing lines to the Shenandoh River (about 900') this fall to reduce wear on the L3130. Have a steep hill to pull up. Full tank is close to 3000 pounds including the trailer weight. Have a 2" 3 hp pump on the trailer. I can fill the tank in about 15 minutes drawing 8' to the water line. Water the gardens by soaker hoses. End up hauling water every other day during the dry season.
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texasjohn
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I agree with comments from prior posts.
..use large container, be sure and strap down, it's heavy and water shifts lots
...use large outlet to save time
...use large hose..save time..valve on end can meter flow
...use pressure if needed...too much will cause runoff
...do NOT use a blue large "discharge" hose..I have one..floppy sides...must be used only if you have real pressure on the hose, gravity will NOT do it...use hose that stays open when you move it around on ground else soft sides close flow to a stop.
..use large container, be sure and strap down, it's heavy and water shifts lots
...use large outlet to save time
...use large hose..save time..valve on end can meter flow
...use pressure if needed...too much will cause runoff
...do NOT use a blue large "discharge" hose..I have one..floppy sides...must be used only if you have real pressure on the hose, gravity will NOT do it...use hose that stays open when you move it around on ground else soft sides close flow to a stop.
Deadman
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Slow is the ticket to watering. If you rush, and just blast the water on, it mostly all runs off. It takes 20 seconds before it even starts to really soak in, and then after that it soaks in faster and faster. I build 2 inch rings of mulch around my 200 trees, and I blast the rings full of water, and then it slowly soaks deep down in. :thumbsup:
at work we have a 300 gallon tank hooked up to a 12v pump wired in to the truck
i think gravity would not have enough pressure and if the slops are not right will not work if you do a pump be sure it can acsedently go on and burn up
also we have a wood frame that keeps it from sliding forward and then a strap to some front tie downs to keep it from sliding back
100 gallons will have less slosing force but also less weight to keep still so idk if it will want to move more or less
will weigh 700-800 pounds when all said and done so be careful but it is supper handy to have the water truck option another park a worked at had a trailer mounted one that was cool but if you are only gonna use it everr once and a while pu bed seams the wise choice
i think gravity would not have enough pressure and if the slops are not right will not work if you do a pump be sure it can acsedently go on and burn up
also we have a wood frame that keeps it from sliding forward and then a strap to some front tie downs to keep it from sliding back
100 gallons will have less slosing force but also less weight to keep still so idk if it will want to move more or less
will weigh 700-800 pounds when all said and done so be careful but it is supper handy to have the water truck option another park a worked at had a trailer mounted one that was cool but if you are only gonna use it everr once and a while pu bed seams the wise choice
gwdixon
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Glad I found this thread!! Was going to buy a 100 gal tank from TSC (tomorrow!) and use the forks on the tractor to lift it up to about 10 feet high on a pallet. That should get some pressure but it would depend on how much water was in the tank.
Anybody have any ideas or experience with this method?
Anybody have any ideas or experience with this method?
56FordGuy
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I believe water weighs about 8 pounds per gallon. 800 pounds of water 10 feet in the air is definitely not something I would want to try driving the tractor with. Might be okay stationary if the tractor/ loader is large enough to lift that much, that high. Lift equipment downrates the amount it can lift as it gets higher.
mjncad
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As long as you secure the tank to the pallet and forks and your loader can lift 900-pounds, you should be good to go. If your loader valve has a lockout lever, I'd lock it when watering to prevent accidental bumping of the control lever by curious 2 and 4 legged critters.
gwdixon
Elite Member
Thanks 56FordGuy and mjncad for the advice.
The M7040 is rated to lift 2500 lbs. to the top of its lift so that is not an issue. Driving it around will be done only a few inches off of the ground. Then it would be lifted at the site to provide pressure.
To clarify, before I buy the tank, does lifting it to 10 feet make much difference in the gravity pressure rather than the 3 feet or so in the back of a pick-up? I have 180 remote trees to water so time expended is an issue.
If the lift is not sufficient to provide pressure then a pump with a generator will be used. Just trying to get information before a lot of trial-and-error is gone through.
Thanks.
.43 is the factor for each foot of fresh water. 10 Ft. will get you 4.3 PSI
gwdixon
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Great! That was the information I was looking for. It seems pretty slow so I think the pump idea will win out.
Sorry to hijack the thread curly but maybe you can use the data as well. About 1.5 PSI at 3 feet high in a garden hose isn't much. You'd be better off drinking the water and....oh, well...never mind.
mjncad
Super Member
You're welcome. Since you have so many trees; I'd consider a trailer mounted tank with a gas powered pump on it...providing you have the room to maneuver a trailer. When I made my water buffalo I chose not to go with a trailer mount because I didn't want to deal with the maneuvering hassles.
As others have said, you want high volume - low pressure so the water can do some good.
hawkeye08
Elite Member
I have been pondering planting some trees that would need water for several years to get established. I was thinking perhaps of getting a bunch of the 55 gal plastic barrels and locating them appropriately to drip to several trees each and then fill the 55 gal barrels with the tote and a pump. Deer have been eating anything planted so have held off for now, too many other projects.
gwdixon
Elite Member
Great minds think alike. I'm going to look at this set-up on Saturday. It has a B&S engine.
Will determine the shape it is in when I get there - 200 mi. round trip. Will take a trailer just in case.
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curly
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No problem bro, yes, I'm reading it all. And as someone else said, 180 trees is a lot, you may need one of the 300 gal tanks and a motor.
I've got a call into a seller who will sell them one at a time. He's gonna get me a quote for shipping. The tanks are $75 for 275 gal. It has an aluminum cage around it. Shipping may be more than the tank but it's still less that 100 gal at TSC.
Here's a link to the Ebay seller. He said to request the 2" NPT plug when ordering.
275 gallon fully reconditioned IBC tote tank - eBay (item 250593697083 end time Sep-05-10 05:48:07 PDT)
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