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   / Water #42  
Petroleum is carbon based (organic) not mineral based. Organic chemistry is focused on petroleum chemicals.
You are correct about the carbon. but it is abiotic just the same.
As a side note: Life, plants, animals, insects, etc all use carbon, but they don't create it.

The White Tiger Oil Field in Vietnam, 90% of the oil comes from what is called "basement rock," where there were never any fossils," says C. Warren Hunt, a geologist in Calgary. "What they've been teaching us in school about oil coming from fossils is wrong.""
The White Tiger field and local area produces about 338,000 barrels per day.
Yet there should be no oil there.

The older biotic belief (still just a working theory) was that oil is from from billions of years of pressure and heat on the supposedly vast blanket of plankton etc that smeared the ancient seabeds. It's a nice idea.

There is newer thinking that it is Abiotic and the result of a mineral process. Carbon notwithstanding.
The idea of an abiotic hydrocarbon is not exactly new. It's been around for a while.
Dimetri Mentelev (developer of the first periodic table) believed that hydrocarbons were generated inside the earth from the mixing of water and iron carbide.
abiogenic theory, holds that hydrocarbons form at greater depths than the organic carbon in the biosphere and that the carbon in question was present at the Earth’s formation.

Here is where the Abitoc theory has some different ideals. Some say that micro-organisms convert the short-chain hydrocarbons into longer chains as they move through “deep hot biosphere.” The abiotic theory suggests that petroleum oils are a self-renewing resource and that they are distributed all over the globe. Others hold it is all minerals.

Read this article from Science today it makes a very good case for abiotic oil.

 
   / Water #43  
Currently it's the cost to desalinate sea water. I saw an article that talked about diversion of the Mississippi river.
 
   / Water #44  
I don't think so.
Recall all the howling and wailing over peak oil? And then there was no such thing as peak oil?
Or the predictions that we'd run out because there are not more dinosaurs to ferment into oil Except oil is a mineral product from geology, not fossils.

We have done ourselves ( or rather our bretheren in poorer countries) some serious disservice by augmenting their food supplies and giving them medicines and medical care helped them learn how to get water, and all that helped them produce more (lots and lots more) fat happy babies.
Who doesn't like babies?
And now when times get hard and we can't give so much away (like during Covid) they all starve back to the sustainable populations that they they had before we meddled in their lives. It's ugly.

But we don't occupy much more than a lousy 10% of the earth so we are no where near maximum population density.

But you should be cheered. Japan's birthrate has fallen off a cliff and so too in Europe and the USA. Even Friggin China has seen it's birth rates fall. People have become so massively selfish that they won't have children.

But to your point more directly:
If humans become a burden on the planet, humans will develop a technology that can alleviate that burden just like we did with peak oil. That's how capitalism works; see a problem, fix it, and sell the cure.

But this girl seems to have the solution
Johnathan Swift made the same proposal many, many years ago.
 
   / Water #45  
Or the predictions that we'd run out because there are not more dinosaurs to ferment into oil Except oil is a mineral product from geology, not fossils.
Ah… Oil never came from dinosaurs. Conventional lore is that it came from plants during the dinosaur era. The rest of your post though is an interesting hypothesis.
 
   / Water #46  
Ah… Oil never came from dinosaurs. Conventional lore is that it came from plants during the dinosaur era. The rest of your post though is an interesting hypothesis.
I heard about it years ago; it's not crackpot.
 
   / Water #47  
I heard about it years ago; it's not crackpot.
The dinosaurs or the other? Serious question, I'm not sure which you mean. I'm also not disputing the hypothesis he presented...
 

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