Weight questions

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pmoon

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L3430
2nd post! Why does the GL3430 weigh 705lbs more than the L3400? Is the GL a much larger tractor? Also does weight = pulling power? I know it must but how much. I ask because Kubotas are light tractors (B7800 B3030 B2910 L3400 etc all around 30 hp but weighing much less than many other brands) and with 40 acres, some wet areas (3 streams, 1 seasonal) and lots of brush clearing, landscaping, log pulling to do I'm thinking that weight is going to be important. What's the idea with making such light tractors? Is it really basically for mowing purposes? I'm not trying to knock them - just curious as to what's the idea behind it. Would the tractors listed above be "not ideal" for the purposes I've mentioned? Do I need to be in the GL series? Thanks
 
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RE: <font color="red"> Why does the GL3430 weigh 705lbs more than the L3400? </font> The 3430 is designed to be a bear in the woods that will knock things down, pull things out, and rip stuff up. The L3400 is one of their economy designs, it is a good mix of power, size and weight for people who may not need the 3430.

RE: <font color="red"> does weight = pulling power </font> In simplistic terms the answer is YES. In practical terms things get a bit muddy. But if you want a tractor to pull things, get a heavy tractor. For your purposes as you outlined, I'd suggest a heavier tractor than a lighter tractor. Understand that for many users, weight offers no advantage, can actually be a liability, and for some users it is an asset. A typical 5, 10 or 15 acre homeowner, who uses the tractor for almost everything, needs a "Swiss Army Knife" in their tractor choice. Kubota B series tractors are like that. They do everything, some things well, some things adequately. But you want it done and a B series will do it. Their light weight will mow without rutting. Their small size will fit between trees and shrubs. Their loaders a capable but not best in class. Their mower deck cut quality is nearly legendary. They offer enough wieght to give adequate traction to pull proper size ground engaging implements, but they won't win any plow pulling contests.

<font color="red"> What's the idea with making such light tractors? Is it really basically for mowing purposes? </font> To really deal with those, take a look at a lot of USEABILITY factors and take a look at the POTENTIAL CUSTOMER BASE and that customer base's INTENDED USES. So who buys light weight Kubotas? They are very popular with landscapers and homeowners. Landscapers like light tractors because they are easy to pull on a trailer, because they don't damage the grass in a yard they are remodeling, because they don't do a lot of pure ground engaging type of pulling. For the most part, small property owners have similar types of uses. In particular, a "B" series Kubota is designed ot be a light tractor series, they have lots of PTO HP for its weight to power implements, they still have sufficient weight when used with proper sized ground engaging implements. These are great mowing tractors, possibly the best. They easily handle rotary cutters, tillers, PHD, snow blowers, etc. Weight is not much of a factor with those implements but PTO power is. They are pretty good with a box blade, but a heavier tractor would be better with a box blade.

The grand L series are designed to be heavier and they are for differnt types of jobs. Most people don't mow around their tulips and across manicured lawns with a heavy tractor.
 
   / Weight questions #3  
Wow Bob, did you read in my mind?! That's exactly why I bought a B3030. Your advices are always useful, full of truth and good to read. Thanks
 
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O.K.! Thanks Bob - I think I'm actually beginning to figure out what I'm looking for. I would like to mow with it too (3-4 acres). How does a 3000+ tractor deal with mowing - some trees, pond, barn etc - how feasible is this. I guess what i'm asking is is there a tractor out there that does both reasonably well as opposed to doing one very well and the other just so so. Thanks
 
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Sounds like you'd like a larger, heavier tractor with 40 acres.

I just love my L3400DT on 17 acres with plenty of bush work on very hilly land, mowing 3-4 acres of pasture and 2 acres of lawn, landscaping, snow removal.... I've very pleased with the power and capabilities of this machine for this acerage. Although I absolutely love time on the tractor, I'd quickly think of doing tasks with larger implements, more quickly, if I had more property to maintain. Then again, not everyone 'maintains' all their acerage...

The Kioti threads rant and rave about how wonderfully heavy their machines are built. This is true if you need that weight ALL the time. If not -- eg. driving across the wet lawn now and then -- it can become a liability. I find the 2500lbs of the L3400 to be about max for reasonable lawn care...just my thoughts.

Shawn
 

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