Welding on new cylinders

/pine · Oct 1, 2010

Now you want to make the body at least 2" longer by having pre existing ends thread onto the ends. They need to thread in a minimum of 1" at each end and really should be more...

this is a bogus assumption IMO... the average depth of "purchase" for a 7/8" 3ph pin is only 3/4" i.e.,thickness of the nuts that hold the pins in place...AND

Everything I have seen and read about DIY side links...where individuals have cut the ends off their existing side links and welded them to cylinders utilize approximately 1/2" to 3/4" of the stems of the clevis or eye ball ends......
IMO just welding the existing lock nuts to either end of the cylinders would suffice...especially if once threaded in a set screw was secured...

How often are side link adjustments are made at the maximum or the minimum of a typical manually adjusted side link?

The whole point is...a manufacturer of hydraulic cylinders could produce a line of cylinders that would make customizing side-links much easier than what is currently available...without the need for the end user to worry about welding on said cylinder...

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I do now see where CCM is advertising "custom side links" for the price you cited however that is $100 less than the price I was originally quoted ...
Also the picture on the CCM site IMO is not a "customized" side link...it looks quite generic to me...
I do stand corrected on the prices...but I also stand by my observation that someone could produce a DIY cylinder for less $

MtnViewRanch · Oct 1, 2010

/pine said:
this is a bogus assumption IMO... the average depth of "purchase" for a 7/8" 3ph pin is only 3/4" i.e.,thickness of the nuts that hold the pins in place...AND

Everything I have seen and read about DIY side links...where individuals have cut the ends off their existing side links and welded them to cylinders utilize approximately 1/2" to 3/4" of the stems of the clevis or eye ball ends......
IMO just welding the existing lock nuts to either end of the cylinders would suffice...especially if once threaded in a set screw was secured...

How often are side link adjustments are made at the maximum or the minimum of a typical manually adjusted side link?

The whole point is...a manufacturer of hydraulic cylinders could produce a line of cylinders that would make customizing side-links much easier than what is currently available...without the need for the end user to worry about welding on said cylinder...

[edited]

I do now see where CCM is advertising "custom side links" for the price you cited however that is $100 less than the price I was originally quoted ...
Also the picture on the CCM site IMO is not a "customized" side link...it looks quite generic to me...
I do stand corrected on the prices...but I also stand by my observation that someone could produce a DIY cylinder for less $

To start with, to get full strength of a bolt, it needs to screw into whatever as far as the size of the bolt that is being used, 7/8 should screw in 7/8 and so on. Any one that cleans out ditches or is making ditches would use full tilt IMO. On my tractors that is only 11 or 12 degrees. My small tractor has a 4" stoke and my bigger tractor has an 8" stroke. As you can see, my box blades really don't tilt all that far and you are talking about cutting that tilt down.

Whenever I build a side link, I do my best to match whatever the stock adjustable link has for its adjustable capacity.

My feeling is that what you are asking for would take a very long time to pay for the initial investment and is most likely why it does not currently exist.

Again all of this is just my opinion of what you have asked about, if someone chooses to do this, all the more power to them.

/pine · Oct 1, 2010

MVR...you do make valid points and I understand them...

obvioulsy if there was enough demand someone would already be making such things available...

I am curious though about the custom links for $250...
My side links (B1700) have a distinct angle on the top of the link...I guess I need to call CCM and see if this price include that type of customization...

another thought...would having boths sides adjustable not give a greater amount of tilt? I have seen hitches with cylinders on both sides but not sure why?

and I do appreciate the feedback...

MtnViewRanch · Oct 1, 2010

/pine said:
MVR...you do make valid points and I understand them...

obvioulsy if there was enough demand someone would already be making such things available...

I am curious though about the custom links for $250...
My side links (B1700) have a distinct angle on the top of the link...I guess I need to call CCM and see if this price include that type of customization...

another thought...would having boths sides adjustable not give a greater amount of tilt? I have seen hitches with cylinders on both sides but not sure why?

and I do appreciate the feedback...

If your tractor is similar to a B3030, that top angle that you are talking about is 14 degrees. I have no idea if CCM figures that type of thing in their building of it. If you were to purchase a Side Link from me, it would have ends that were like the factory ends at the factory angles that you now have with your standard link.

Yes having both sides adjust will give you double the possible available angle. I believe that 3RRL has double hydraulic Side Links on both his and his wife's tractors. :cool2: Many of the cat 2 tractors come standard with 2 adjustable Side Links.