WELLL!!! HELP!!!

[DaveNay]

First off....when it comes to submerged electrical stuff, I am very careful. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Second, your original pump motor sounds like it is a 240v, single phase motor. The replacement four wire sounds like it is probably a 3 phase motor with safety ground. I would think that there is no way to make the 3 phase work with your existing wiring. /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Most importantly though...without being present at your well and looking at the wiring and at the pumps, any internet opinion is not going to be worth much in this situation. It is sort of like doing your doctoring via the internet....unless the doc can poke and prod and see, then the diagnosis stands a good chance of being wrong.

Not trying to rain on your parade....I can fully understand the predicament you are in.

Dave

 

[polecat]

I agree bout water and any type of voltage dont mix..thats what breakers are for /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
this 1 h.p motor is a 240 volt model not a 3 phase i jist called..i jist cant figger out why the fourth wire /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

 

[DaveNay]

Hot, hot, common and ground?

Dave

 

[alco141]

the fourth wire should be green and is a ground, the red and black are the hot leads, the white is a common lead. at least this is the way i remember it. i had a four lead pump and converted to a three lead pump, i would caution you that your plumbing should be grounded as well, to make sure you dont pick up any voltage carried by the water. i went froma 1/2 hp to a 1hp without changing the wire or the fuses.


alex

 

[polecat]

OK GUYS !!!!!! HERE'S THE REAL SKINNY!!!! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Tis the season 2 b buildin and puttin in wells!!!! Or in my case b fixin'em...I wanna thank all of ya'll for yer input..IMMENSELY... Ispent the whole day either on the phone or on the net doin ..well research /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
Am in desperate need of a new pump as mine has bin goin fer some time..and is now on its last leg....have had a sneakin suspicion bout the motor for bout a year and a half as i have bin gittin what appear 2b small plastic shavings on my screens on all my faucets and on the screens on my washer.. thought it might b some teflon tape the idiot that built this place didn't know a things bout anything... u don't even wanna know...its been quite an education on not what 2 do when building!!!!!
So all u wanna know bout deep water well pumps...My existing pump is a 1/2 hp mueller, 230volt 3 wire,with a 5.9 amp franklin motor.....that is set at 213' of a possible 495'....dont ask me y???
Now i've only run this well dry once.... last summer runnin it full tilt all day doin a bunch of pressure washin...a couple of things i want..a little more pressure ...the insurance i wont run dry again...and not 2 lose another motor because of workin 2 hard...and oh yeah i want that as cheaply as i can git it...........so here goes
I was on the phone with every pump place in new england that was worth its salt today...same 1/2 hp pump= $480 to $900 /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif RIDICULOUS!!!!!
Thats not even steppin up 2 3/4 or 1 hp!!!
EBAY here I come!!! 1hp 230 volt motor $145 /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Whats the catch i say....all 3 pumps for bid r myers pumps ...I ve got my eye on the 1 hp.job..I found the myers corp 1 800 # and called em up 2 c what the 4th wires all bout...these pumps dont have an internal capacitor 2 git the motor started...u need a control box which is where the 4th wire goes!!! no problem...$65...they gimme a state rep 2 call and i call him and he gits me in touch with a guy bout an hour and a half away...he looks it up and the myers co made there own control boxs a few years back and then switched over 2 frankllin motors and capacitor control boxs...the problem???they havent madem for a while!!!!
THE PUNCHLINE!!!!!!! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif He LIVES bout 20 min from me and moonlights ...on the side!!! He gits all the factory duds and rebuilds em in his garage...U always need a guy in every field of work like that!!!! $225 cash gits me a $800 brand new never bin used but for a few min..rebuilt 3/4 hp 3 wire 230volt pump !!!!! splice kit!!!!! extra 20 or 30' of wire and pipe so i can drop the pump deeper /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Will let u no how it goes tommorrow and ifn yer in need ...he's gotta bunch!!!
Jist wanna say thax agin and hope I can help someone out with a jpump 2222!!!!
TODD /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

 

[DaveNay]

Hope it all works out good for you and your family in the end. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[polecat]

THANX for the feed backs and hte encouragement!!! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[anthonyk]

check out Alamo Water company in San antonio.
Don't know the web address, but it should be easy to find.
I buy most of my water purification components there.
I hope they can help you.

 

[MikePA]

<font color="blue"> 2 b buildin and puttin in </font>
polecat, I enjoy and learn from reading your posts, however, just like typing in all caps is considered shouting (as well as being difficult to read), short hand and abbreviations are hard to read as well. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif I find myself having to read and then re-read what you've typed just to make sure I understand what you've written.

I use abbreviations when I use a chat/instant messaging service where brevity is almost a requirement and the time needed to translate a short message into English isn't a big time consumer. However, given the length of messages in a forum, this translation time can sometimes be onerous.

Just my $0.02. I know I, and others, can simply skip reading them, but I'd hate to see people miss out on the knowledge in your posts because of this. Again, just my $0.02.

 

[rozett]

Polecat.... I would be cautious about going too cheap on a well pump. I agree, you don't want to be spending $900 if you can spend $500... but remember that quality isn't free.

Personally, I would not opt for the $200 pump. My pump is 600 feet down, and I don't want to be draggin' that thing out more than once in a lifetime. I would rather spend a little more and get a better quality pump, than to have to replace the cheaper one in five years.