What a nightmare, please read.

   / What a nightmare, please read. #321  
*Update*

I have been talking with the National Support Rep from Mahindra. He said that their is no reason the HST could not have been next day aired.!?

I will post more later.

YIKES! Good luck.

Double YIKES!!, of course IF they had done that this thread probably wouldn't exist.


*Update* made more calls. I finally got ahold of the Senior Manager of Support.

Mahindra will still not let us open the pump, but he said they would send us the test results. Lot of good that will do if something is wrong.

We have decided to trade the Mahindra on a Kubota L47. For no other reason than the TERRIBLE dealer and company support.

Seems some posters have not read the fact you are getting an L47 :proposetoast: .

I look forward to a comparison of company support. I've only owned Kubotas for 7 years and other than tires have never gotten support for the machines. They just keep on running fine.
 
   / What a nightmare, please read. #322  
I've been offline for the last 8 days travelling and visiting family. I had hoped by now that this would be resolved, instead it drags on. I am most disappointed in the communication aspect. If it indeed happened as posted, there is just no excuse for communication like that. But I still wonder why all the multiple calls to HQ. That is the dealer's job.

I will suggest to the OP that he not get into naming names and listing extensions and whatnot. No reason to take a parting shot. You have said what you wanted to say and done quite a bit of damage already. To take it further will not help your case any.

I will say that your situation is very unusual. If your Mahindra was bought from us, I assure you it would have been back to you repaired or a new one in it's place a long time ago. But I can only control what happens from our dealership. It pains me to see this happening to you.

The L47 is a nice machine. I hope it serves you well.

Neil from Messick's, thank you for the kind words. You guys run a top notch organization. You obviously know what customer service is all about.
 
   / What a nightmare, please read. #323  
Neil and Dave have helped me out in the past and I'm geographically far away...

They both have gone the extra mile which is a credit to their success...

Still hoping for a satisfactory outcome on this and sometimes people just get in over their head... I've seen it with arbitration cases that ended up in arbitration because just about everything that could go wrong did and it is often because someone dropped the ball.
 
   / What a nightmare, please read. #324  
First off 24 days is way to long, we had a gear 2538 rebuild same problem in 2 weeks, this was a gear so completely different situation.

its 20-30 hour job. The Extra delay could be because its extra busy? but that's bad
 
   / What a nightmare, please read. #325  
Tractor has been at the dealers for 40 days.
The tractor has now been at the dealer for 50 days. The new part has been in the U.S. for over 2 weeks. The dealer has had the part for a week. Surely this is running by now?
 
   / What a nightmare, please read. #326  
If they did not find the source of metal and just put it together, likely it is having problems from the metal in the system (or will soon after being returned).
 
   / What a nightmare, please read. #327  
I realize the part is here and has been for a while and surely the tractor will be ready to roll soon, but I have confirmed what I suspected - that a bunch of parts are indeed stuck on a Hanjin ship idling off the coast waiting for this complex issue to be solved. Hanjin won't dock unless they have an assurance that the ship will not be confiscated, and the dock won't take the ship until they have assurance that Hanjin can pay for the unloading and buy enough fuel to get back out of town.

I think we all realize that this is a pretty unusual and complex parts situation. Probably on a daily basis MUSA has been hopeful to see the ship dock (and perhaps it has by now). From their perspective, it would be a tough decision to then air freight over a bunch of parts when they know they have already bought these same parts and they are in a container in or near USA waters and could be unloaded within a day or two possibly.

It does not answer for the poor communication though. I do wish we could hear from the dealer to get his perspective. I wonder about all of the phone calls to MUSA. Could it be that he was told all they had to say and he just needed to be more patient? If you are on a long trip with kids and every 10 minutes they ask "are we there yet", eventually there is no need for a response other than "hush, and be patient". I hate to say that as this deal sure seems delayed by any measure, and I want to be careful not to blame the customer. But this doesn't totally make sense. What is the dealer doing? What is the area service rep doing?
 
   / What a nightmare, please read. #328  
Dave,
Even after the delay to get the part to the U.S., MUSA could have overnighted it to the dealer. A week in the US before the dealer gets it... no good excuse for that.
I do agree there is more to the story. There always is.
 
   / What a nightmare, please read. #329  
33 pages, that's a lot of reading :confused2:

So OP how are you going to trade it in knowing the system is full of metal and has been run?

Not mention anything for top dollar? or tell them and take a big $$$ hit?

Is this something that could be written off as an expense to the business?

Legitimate questions by the way
 
   / What a nightmare, please read. #330  
33 pages, that's a lot of reading :confused2:

So OP how are you going to trade it in knowing the system is full of metal and has been run?

Not mention anything for top dollar? or tell them and take a big $$$ hit?

Is this something that could be written off as an expense to the business?

Legitimate questions by the way

Interesting thoughts. It's got a ton of warranty left so I wouldn't take a bath on it.

If it were me I would run the repaired tractor around like I stole it all over the dealer's lot using as much HST Hydraulic power as I could. (No loader or remotes.) Then after 30 mins I would rip off the filter, replace with new one and check for anything strange in the old filter. Then maybe do that two or three more times. If it was clean each time I would assume the repair was successful. If it caught any more metal initially, and then cleaned up on filter check #4 and after a few hours of use, then even a nerd like me would be satisfied selling to someone and I could still sleep well at night. (I'd explain the flushing procedure I did with the filters and how it still has a five year powertrain warranty as well - or is a seven year for you IH782?)

BUT - in actuality, if it ran great again and was clean... Then I'd probably keep it and not take the multi thousand dollar hit that any used machine would experience. I may also see if there was a more experienced dealer and service/parts team nearby.

In reading through this again and talking to my dealer about it today in passing, I think the main problem was a newer dealer who did not know exactly how to handle this from the get go, and was possibly not skilled at navigating the system. I think Mahindra corporate does share responsibility for not training the dealer in all of its protocols. The lack of call backs is indeed unfortunate as well, but the die had been cast by the dealer at that point and the part was literally on the slow boat from Asia rather than the plane like it should have been. I think I would likely put that on the way the dealer initially communicated with the parts department.

Too bad the dealer hadn't pulled the correct lever on day one and had that part air freighted as the Corporate service guy confirmed was an option just a few days ago. Once again - that sounds like dealer learning experience to me.

Look - I get that this is a crappy deal for the OP, but all this bashing by others who honestly don't know all the facts with certainty just seems odd to me. (And I obviously don't know all the details either...) I'll just leave these points here for a newbie looking for a tractor:

1) Think hard before you buy a tractor from IH782's dealer until that guys gets a little more experience with his products and how to navigate corporate properly... :D

2) As a two time Mahindra owner over the past five years, I can assure you that at least in my case the machines, my dealer, and the customer service have all been exceptional. A+ and always responsive, helpful, and communicative. Great products, great prices, and tremendous capabilities! (And I am sure that I would be having just as much fun on a Kubota, Deere, Kioti, LS, New Holland, etc...)

3) I'll continue to believe, and will share that having an experienced, empathetic, and effective dealer is important when purchasing and owning a tractor of ANY brand.

Hope your dealer gets your tractor back to you soon IH782. :thumbsup:

PEACE ALL!
 

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